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So who will be moving to THERA? (Jita without Concord)

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Ma'Baker McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#281 - 2015-02-26 14:26:07 UTC
I mean, Have I misread what it is?

Its a hub, but in a WH or Null system, and you go in if you want to be killed, right?
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#282 - 2015-02-26 16:38:06 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Ned Thomas wrote:
Just checking on Eve Scout, it looks like there are currently 25 connections into Thera. The few days I was there, ...
Why did you not feel compelled to make it your home?


Actually I just joined a Thera based corp and will probably be in and out of there more frequently than anywhere else for the foreseeable future. I probably should start calling it home.
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#283 - 2015-02-26 17:14:49 UTC
Thera: heaven for station gamers. Why would I want to live there?

They should put a no-weapons buffer of 300k or so around the stations. Would make that system interesting.
Seifer Al'Masy
Mercury Arms Inc.
Ghostbirds
#284 - 2015-02-26 17:24:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Seifer Al'Masy
Thera is good to "live" in. If you want to roam and explore all of Eve.
Try docking as less as possible (I learned that the hard way, yesterday.....) Blink

It's a huge system, find yourself a couple of safe spots, and you should be fine PP
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#285 - 2015-02-26 17:28:03 UTC
Seifer Al'Masy wrote:
Thera is good to "live" in. If you want to roam and explore all of Eve.
Try docking as less as possible (I learned that the hard way, yesterday.....) Blink

It's a huge system, find yourself a couple of safe spots, and you should be fine PP


Was going to ask how that happened Big smile
Seifer Al'Masy
Mercury Arms Inc.
Ghostbirds
#286 - 2015-02-26 17:37:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Seifer Al'Masy
Ned Thomas wrote:
Seifer Al'Masy wrote:
Thera is good to "live" in. If you want to roam and explore all of Eve.
Try docking as less as possible (I learned that the hard way, yesterday.....) Blink

It's a huge system, find yourself a couple of safe spots, and you should be fine PP


Was going to ask how that happened Big smile


Turns out that Corp Instawarp BMs are compromised...... Twisted go figure...
I warped to one of the BMs, and than, instead of warping to one of my SafeSpots right way, my Eve IQ levels weren't at it's best, and I stood there for 20secs....

... a Stileto lands 4km off me, and I though "Oh, look, a corp member warped to the same BM as me......Wait.., why is the Stileto showing on my overview.....Question"

I got decloaked and I though "Oh well, one less Tengu...... What?"

So yeah, stay in space, my friend.... stay in space.....
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#287 - 2015-02-26 17:42:21 UTC
Note to self: don't hang around corp bookmarks too close or too long Smile
Aralyn Cormallen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#288 - 2015-02-26 19:38:46 UTC
Aaril wrote:
It would be interesting to see what happened if they did remove bubbles.

Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
They should put a no-weapons buffer of 300k or so around the stations. Would make that system interesting.


I am forever perplexed with some peoples definition of "interesting". To me, removing the ability for conflict brings up terms more like "tedious" and "boring", rather than "interesting". Thera is more than interesting enough, removing peoples guns is not going to make it more exciting, unless in truth, that isn't what you want, you just want the bad people to not be allowed to hurt you. How about you go out and impose your will on space, rather than waiting for CCP to bubble (heh) wrap the game for you.
Ravasta Helugo
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#289 - 2015-02-26 21:22:53 UTC
Aralyn Cormallen wrote:
Aaril wrote:
It would be interesting to see what happened if they did remove bubbles.

Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
They should put a no-weapons buffer of 300k or so around the stations. Would make that system interesting.


I am forever perplexed with some peoples definition of "interesting". To me, removing the ability for conflict brings up terms more like "tedious" and "boring", rather than "interesting". Thera is more than interesting enough, removing peoples guns is not going to make it more exciting, unless in truth, that isn't what you want, you just want the bad people to not be allowed to hurt you. How about you go out and impose your will on space, rather than waiting for CCP to bubble (heh) wrap the game for you.

This isn't about making the game safe. It's about making it safe enough that trade is even possible.

Right now, it isn't. Activity is limited to ganking people stupid enough to be curious.
The Newface
Doomheim
#290 - 2015-02-26 22:35:14 UTC
There is 0 reasons for me to move any character there.
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#291 - 2015-02-26 22:58:11 UTC
I moved to Thera, but a Goonwaffle moved in next door to me and the property value shot down to 0. Evil

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
Bed Bugg
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#292 - 2015-03-04 05:05:53 UTC
Bed Bugg wrote:
The viability of this as any sort of trade hub will not just be the ability to get into it.
Probably the bigger concern will be the ability to undock.

Undock mechanics will really be a big key.

Poor mechanics will make it "Hotel California".
You can check in anytime you like, but you can never leave Shocked

Anyone have any updates on New Rancer from the test server?



Thanks you all for the updates.

Sadly, several folks sort of predicted the way this would end up going.
A lot of flash, and then a fizzle.

Perhaps they should put that old veterans home that they promised out there....
Seems apropos somehow.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#293 - 2015-03-04 06:04:18 UTC
What did I say?

We have old sayings in Eve. We need a new one:

If it can be death camped, it will be.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Ciel993
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#294 - 2015-03-04 06:19:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Ciel993
If CCP really wants Thera to be anywhere near populated (by populated I mean filled with ppl form all over new eden so trade prospers things go on, not inhabited by one or two big alliances who have the manpower to not being squashed once undock), I think they should put a DMZ or concord SOE equivalent or something 1000km around the station. Once inside this area, it would be like a 0.5 highsec system, but once out it would become lawless like 0.0 and where all the fun activities(anom, ices, etc) are located. This would allow more people to move in since the barrier of entrance got lowered.

I mean, Thera is supposed to be a unique big system, it should offers more than just 5min boring warp time enough to make an instant noodle and D-scan spam being less useful, right? How about a huge 0.0 without local, yet everyone can access and can find the thrill of living in a lawless zone?
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#295 - 2015-03-04 07:18:07 UTC
Thera will never be a trade hub, or any kind of hub other than a transit hub, once initial interest wears off. Eventually, it'll just be a wh system that people pass through to get somewhere else, after scouting both holes for bubbles, and stations will be largely abandoned.

Given the nature of Eve's player base (98% male, 100% adolescent/mentally adolescent), it'll never work. Most of the time, undock has drag bubbles in line of it, so you can't even use insta undock bms. If people can't get stuff in or out, it can't be a trade hub.
Crest Zah Donartal
Bluenose Corporation
#296 - 2015-03-04 08:31:24 UTC
Thera is just a free kill zone more.
It is ridiculous to talk about "trade Hub".
Tung Yoggi
University of Caille
#297 - 2015-03-04 09:58:01 UTC
Thera's market is surprisingly well stocked, to meet the local demand as well as serving as a quick pitstop for travellers.

There is definitely money to be made for traders in Thera.
God's Apples
Wilderness
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#298 - 2015-03-04 11:03:51 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
Thera will never be a trade hub, or any kind of hub other than a transit hub, once initial interest wears off. Eventually, it'll just be a wh system that people pass through to get somewhere else, after scouting both holes for bubbles, and stations will be largely abandoned.

Given the nature of Eve's player base (98% male, 100% adolescent/mentally adolescent), it'll never work. Most of the time, undock has drag bubbles in line of it, so you can't even use insta undock bms. If people can't get stuff in or out, it can't be a trade hub.


You know you can't anchor bubbles in thera right...

"Hydra Reloaded are just jealous / butthurt on me / us because we can get tons of PVP action in empire while they aren't good enough to get that." - NightmareX
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#299 - 2015-03-04 13:01:58 UTC
So after about a week, Thera is certainly the most interesting place I've lived so far. And as much as everyone swears the market is barren, it's surprisingly easy to get what you need, either in system or through one of the connections. And yes, there's always a fight going somewhere, but it's by no means a guaranteed death trap.
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#300 - 2015-03-04 14:19:07 UTC
Ravasta Helugo wrote:
Aralyn Cormallen wrote:
Aaril wrote:
It would be interesting to see what happened if they did remove bubbles.

Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
They should put a no-weapons buffer of 300k or so around the stations. Would make that system interesting.


I am forever perplexed with some peoples definition of "interesting". To me, removing the ability for conflict brings up terms more like "tedious" and "boring", rather than "interesting". Thera is more than interesting enough, removing peoples guns is not going to make it more exciting, unless in truth, that isn't what you want, you just want the bad people to not be allowed to hurt you. How about you go out and impose your will on space, rather than waiting for CCP to bubble (heh) wrap the game for you.

This isn't about making the game safe. It's about making it safe enough that trade is even possible.

Right now, it isn't. Activity is limited to ganking people stupid enough to be curious.


This is true, the only real trade for anything outside of highsec is
1. the people that have the system under lock down that do their own "trading" to corp/alliance members
or
2. the few people that get lucky to dock/undock with out being instalocked/popped off the face of the galaxy.
(I ran a courier job for a friend that pull stuff out of low sec in a viator and everytime I docked or undocked (I bm'd both warp in and instawarp out)I was instalocked by a tornado the second I undocked or docking permission was requested. the only thing that saved me from the shots fired was the permission being granted in or the fact I was already engaged in warp out)

CCP thinks that players will allow other players not part of their groups to come out and set up markets outside of empire, when the truth is everyone is to worried about getting a kill for their KB's rather than spreading the economy. If it was encouraged id be doing trading all the time, even incursion FCs have shot down traders that would usually trade under their high prices but selling just higher than jita.

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith