Warfare & Tactics

Let's get this bullcrap out of the books shall we. I only attended because CEO commanded me to do it to assist our less experienced members. I didnt have fun doing it since organised fights are not what Eve is about, especially when it's organised with people who have well know personal agenda against me.

i am sorry i didnt reply earlier.

so caldari militia people dont have the isk? thats about as true as saying elephants fly in space and came from the center of the Milky Way.

as of the rest, kinda all wrong. im sorry i am busy trolling people on yahoo answer, so heck.

This is pretty much the sum total of reality. Anything else is really just either sour grapes or epeen madness.

I am happy to (finally) join this discussion and hope that the flaming in some posts is just an indication of the individual post authors obvious diaper rash.

Anyway, yeah, FW is cyclical. I have been at it for just over a year and love doing it even when the odds are against me/us. I honestly didn't enjoy the few weeks after Qcats left and there was nothing really to shoot. I would prefer slightly more even fleet fights cause those are just AWESOME. We had some great fights a few months back, like begining of summer when it seemed FW was nicely balanced in active player numbers. Anytime there is a severe mismatch it just doesn't seem fun or productive for the opposing side.

How do you solve it? You don't. It will need to happen organically. Garbad is absolutely correct that one decent size corp would put the fights back to awesomesauce proportions and less "blobby", which is not fun for the receiving end of the blob.

One thing that would help FW get where it needs to be is if the majority of people played it as intended with fewer "dirty tricks" like entering opposing militia comms, etc. But that's a pipe dream. Caldari just needs a few more active PvP'ers and it's all good. Yeah, go ahead and tell me how dirty Calmil used to be, I'm a big boy, I can handle it. The truth is we do not engage in this that I am aware of, if so, let me know who you think it is and we'll go from there.

More PvP'ers for Caldari = awesome fights in the future, so refer a legitimate (non-spy) friend and let's get fighting!

IBS was also largely successful because of your "high profile" strategy. When you made IBS back then you made it clear that you wanted the corp to be high profile. With all the posts/blogs about everything IBS did, good or bad, it got IBS attention and got people back into caldari militia after the "exodus". (Also forums weren't as boring as they are today...) IBS was the first caldari player corp to break 10k kills and it still leads as having the most kills over other caldari corps even though other corps have had almost a year to catch up after IBS's decline. (THE4 are about 11,500 and will probably overtake IBS's 12k+ kills soon). IBS held that title for almost a year (or maybe it's been a year by now, who knows?) and that's pretty impressive.


There aren't really any movers or shakers in cal mil these days. Everyone wants to go about as how they've always done it. Gavin and others tried to get people to base in areas like ichoriya, something other than enaluri, setup new comms/forums, etc, but there really wasn't much support behind it (theres a seperate movement to base in hysera/hasmijalaa, and some corps have done so, will be interesting to see how that develops ).

Fleets still lose a significant number of ships/pilots due to the camps in enaluri. If you're out gunned/outnumbered and are still losing pods, frigs, BCs or whatever to gangs with 3 carriers (when you already lack numbers to neut out, out dps the reps of, or jam even 1 carrier effectively) providing reps, remotesebos, etc even when you have your "insta undock" then maybe it's time to think outside the box.

P.S. if you're interested in FW its a pretty decent place to make isk and get casual pew pew (still can get big fights, but not so likely ATM). It's a good place to log in and get pew pew within a short amount of time after logging in, it can be a solo fight, a small gang fight or even a larger fleet fight, FW offers most demographics of your prefered gang size.

The issue is very simple, really. The Gals are winning the war.There are several causes for this, but the real reason, the most obvious reason is that they have for the time being destroyed their enemies' will to fight.

We can talk about why that is, there are several factors, but the most basic and fundamental is the difference in attitude, that is, the Gallente are " Fighitng a war", whereas the Caldari are " In faction warfare". Doesn't sound like much of a difference, not much more than an ambiguity to most, but it is the underlying problem. The Caldari go "looking for fights" , whereas the Gallente do what they have to do to maintain control over the theater of operations.I cannot say much about what the Gals thinking is, only what I see, and if I were them I would deny any organized planning, as all it does is invite a counter to what has been proven to work for them. Oddly, I never see the Gallente complaining too much about spies, or carebears, or leadership issues, or improper fits or unwanted noobs who dont follow orders.They seem to be about other business.



If you go back and look at the heyday of Caldari militia, when we took all the Gallente systems, and destroyed fleets larger than ourselves,regardless of what some parties will maintain, we had a plan, at least when More-Cowbell was involved.What the plan was isn't important.I will simply state it's goals, to take occupancy of all Gallente systems, and to rid Blackrise of all Gallente and pirate interefernce.We did this. MCB did not plex, nor do I claim we did. I claim that taking all the systems was PART of the plan.Specifically, for it's effect on enemy morale.For anyone who thinks system occupancy is irrelevant, simply search the forums for all the posts about gallente winning FW now that plexes are falling.It has a tangible effect, on both recruitment and longterm retention of militia members, but I digress.

X Gallentius makes the point that a real military commander would put in parlance by saying he conducts an
"Assesment of available means." He makes use of what he has, and cries not over what he has not.
That is to say, he does not tell people they can't fleet because they aren't fitted just so. What a real commander does is look at his assets, and then come up with a misson that is achievable with what he has on hand. A good commander will find a use for his veteran pilots and corps, as well as his untrained unwashed masses.There is a difference between a Commander, a war leader, and an FC. Caldari militia has FCs; petty , vain, egotistical, divisive, prone to nepotism, elitist and short sighted, but yes, they have qualified FCs who can run a battle. What they lack are war leaders, real commanders, as opposed to FCs. Anyone can form up a fleet and take it for a run around the flagpole. It takes a leader to take a group of nubs in crap ships and take them out and use them to contribute to achieving long term goals.

Long term goals are stated as part of the problem ( or rather lack thereof). I will not restate my own personal opinions of what those goals could or should be, but rather, that the idea of having longterm goals is both realistic and worthwhile.This idea in and of itself causes problems in militia, for example:

You have a large group of people in Cal militia who say it is not POSSIBLE to have ANY war goals

You have another group who say that even if defining goals were possible, it is impossible to achieve them

There is another group who will actively oppose the ideas of any goals, as it might threaten their personal fiefdoms.

There are those who cannot find use for nubs, and so wont fly with them or fleet them.History shows us how to use these troops, the Romans had their Auxilia, who were vital to the Empires' security, and exclusively provided certain troops the Legions themselves did not possess.A good example of how to use militia can by found in a study of the Battle of Cowpens (1781) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cowpens

Few, if any in militia understand it is about the will to fight, even as they log off in despair of finding a fight "On their terms"

By and large most Caldari commanders either do not understand the concept of dictating the terms of the engagement, or are simply are incapable of pulling it off if they do.They are, in effect, unimaginative and lazy.If they are not presented with the fight they have fleeted for, they are at a loss, generally speaking. Reshipping takes ages.

There are precious few commanders who put the work into getting a fight on their terms. They simply fleet, fly around, and either get blobbed and accept the fight, for lack of moral courage to turn it down,( and face the unhappy masses complaining how they got all dressed up for nothing) and go home in pods, or they get blueballed by smarter Gal pilots who are not content to be missile fodder out of sheer boredom themselves, and then the fleet goes home pissed off and they log off anyway.

It is clear from Gallente response time they have a properly functioning command and control system, whatever it is, or however simple it is.Bottom line, they are able to mass quickly in the appropriate ships.Caldari command and control is a mess, and response times are abysmal

Holy ****. That's a ******** post even by this forum's standard.

Your winning the isk war.......

Caldari Kills : 144,454
Losses: 146,688

Damage done (isk) 7,382.68 b
Damage Received (isk) 5,923.53 b

Efficeincy: 55.48%

Gallente Kills: 159,052
Losses: 118,165
Damage done (isk) 8,132.79 b
Damage Received (isk) 4,560.24 b

Efficeincy: 64.07%

We have killed nearly a trillion more isk than you, and lost 1.5 trillion less isk than you.

Its not even close mate.

Amar / minmatar / neutral kills / losses would be my education guess Evil :)