Player Features and Ideas Discussion

While I agree with your points, don't fall into the Grr Goons trap. It leads to sloppy thinking.

On YOUR movement, perhaps.

Which was, you know, the ENTIRE POINT of it.

It has opened up null pretty well already....I just hope they keep to their word on this being the LEAST of all the changes planned.

One thing I love about Eve post-Phoebe is that taking a jump bridge is now a decision, not a no-brainer.

Yes, I get that everyone hates "Space AIDS," but it is better than the whole world dropping on top of you the instant you want to do something fun with a small cap fleet.

It does not in the first place? If you want to run an Incursion and don't want to take gates or JBs with your BS, you repackage it and transport it via DST via JBs or via JF to the destination? Or you take gates to the Incursion in a proper fleet and maybe even encounter some people on the way to fight. Incursion BS/fleets are PVP ready in any case with web ships, logistics (and for the roam some points/scrams), so you can kill stuff on the way.

It's a group effort and that effort does not start on the warp gate of the Incursion site. If you want to run incursions, you should go there in a fleet, run them as a fleet and return as a fleet. Two regions are not too far to do anything, you just need to rid yourself of that laziness, convenience driven attitude that has reigned the game for too many years. I travel around Delve a lot to do anoms, sigs or belts in particular systems and I do not use a JB at all, instead I fly around in my T3 or Ceptor to the systems of choice. In the process, I see systems, can scan for some sigs and find nice complexes, D/Rs or interesting wormholes and even people doing stuff who are not "welcome" and I can report them.

Not true at all. If I am ratting on the other side of my home region and a ping goes out, "Super is tackled! Get to staging system NOW!" than I have a harder time getting to that fight if I have to take a jump bridge or two to get there. That forces me to stay close to my staging system if I want to be able to join 200 of my closest friends at a moment's notice. What is needed now is an income source that works well even if a group is not all spread out.



I have yet to see this happen out here in Fountain. Maybe you need to consult with your industry wing?

Were your gates in your region broken during this time? You can still use your jump bridge network to move around, but try to do it in moderation. By moderation I mean start your travel with using a jump bridge, then skip the next one by jumping your battleship through the gates while your fatigue is wearing off before using the next bridge. Use your bridges early and often, but just wait for the cooldown to finish before using it again and use gates like the rest of the peasants in the meantime.



Ok, I would support removing fatigue from jump bridges if when you got the JB network upgrade, you would first have to scan down the JB to use it as it would randomly spawn in the system, and you wouldn't know where it would be connected to on the other side. And the jump bridge would also have a maximum jump mass limitation both per jump and total before the jump bridge fails. At which point the bridge will be down for an undetermined amount of time before it spawns again and must be scanned back down.

If there's anyone here that believes upon the removal of JB fatigue, Goons wouldn't build a JB network from the back of blue space to the front, allowing rapid transit throughout the CFC empire to the frontlines, please raise your hands. Now put them down you deluded people.

Let's be serious. No fatigue jump bridges would allow fleet to rapidly pass though many regions in a short period of time, just like they did pre-Phoebe, although that was overshadowed by the power of rapid response capital fleets and chain titan bridging.

Rapid transit through blue space would become common, resulting in the renewed ability to deploy from the deepest part of any blue spaceblob to anywhere on the edges of that spaceblob in a short period of time, without using JB's.

I would prefer to keep the timers, but have all POS JBs function like open cynoes. Essentially, you could hop to any friendly JB in range.

The defensive value would be enhanced enough that CCP would have a free hand to create other forms of vulnerability for sov holding alliances, such as the long missing vulnerabilities to small gang interference.

Wrong. This is because you prefer to sit in a station instead of being in space. This is because you rather use JBs instead of flying around in your space. This is because you rather play another game and only log in upon a ping. This is because people like you rather go to High sec to gank or run missions instead of living in their own space. This is because people like you are lazy and do not want to put effort into the game. The reason why people only find random AFK ratters is because you are not in your space.

You take a lot less gates by using JBs and instead you jump around your space. That is not the "flying around" I am talking about and it reduces your exposure to other people flying around in your space, which results in less people to intercept, less people flying around most areas in a region and cuts down on interference potential.