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I joined EVE for Incarna - a random bucket of ideas

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Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#61 - 2011-12-21 00:54:56 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
I thought that was the not so secret stated goal of the little bees and their master.

We don't want to ruin the game...we want to ruin your game.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#62 - 2011-12-21 02:38:09 UTC
Ravan Hekki wrote:
WiS hsa the potential to do somthing amazing, somthing genre redefining. I think thats the point of it. I could be wrong, but CCP wants to create somthing different to your avarage MMORPG.
It's interesting that people saw WiS as the WOD beta and didn't think that thee development of WoD may have been a way of developing a bigger eve and recouping the costs through another game.

The vision of a world which had ships, ground warfare, people runnig bars or god forbid player run agents (thankyou TRIAD) in stations attracted me to EVE. The idea that when i dock at a statione there may be a firefight happening in some slum, i can negotiate prices with a real person or the guy fixing my ship i can argue him down on price, but i dint ralise he fitted second hand parts and my guns overheat faster or he stuck a tracking device on my industrial so pirates could follow it. A New eden where 0.0 can have an economey based around services offered in a station and encourages trade, ilegal back room deals etc...
Do you see what i see when i see WiS?

That is the vision of New Eden that CCP has for new eden and thats what i want from this game. Yes NeX was a poorly implemented idea, however you may need to get througfh the birthing pains to get to what would be the greatest game ever created, we have the tech to do it, just maybe not the will.

this honestly.

when i saw walking instations i didnt look at it as failed or as a waste of resources. think about it.
the more environments the company has to work with, not only wil their be mroe players, but they will have the reason, resources, location, and ability, to put EVEN MORE features in the hands of the players, and who knows, if they ended WiS with a fairly successful economy of bars, markets, player run reapir/custom shops, they may even add NeX items eventually to the player's hands as well.

when looking at WiS, think of it as a stepping stone to give the players in eventual MORE control over their game by being able to have a location to participate in more of the workings of the game.

maybe im being optimistic, but really, the more material the dev's have to work with to make EvE Unique, the more oppurtunities they will have to give the player's something meaningful to control.
Disdaine
#63 - 2011-12-21 04:46:56 UTC
Goon bigots spamming thread to get it locked.

Nothing new.
Flamespar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#64 - 2011-12-21 05:20:49 UTC
Disdaine wrote:
Goon bigots spamming thread to get it locked.

Nothing new.


And it's always the same ones.

Just hide their posts (click the triangle next to their name under their portrait and select 'hide posts'.

You won't miss anything, other than their usual dribble.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#65 - 2011-12-21 05:47:52 UTC
Disdaine wrote:
Goon bigots

lol

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Disdaine
#66 - 2011-12-21 06:18:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Disdaine
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Disdaine wrote:
Goon bigots

lol

bigot : a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
Quote:

worst kind of scum
straight up social gaming faggotry
goddamn korean agenda

Look on the brightside Harlot, at least now you know what a strawman argument and a bigot is. Eve is enriching your life.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#67 - 2011-12-21 06:30:49 UTC
Disdaine wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Disdaine wrote:
Goon bigots

lol

bigot : a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
Quote:

worst kind of scum
straight up social gaming faggotry
goddamn korean agenda

Look on the brightside Harlot, at least now you know what a strawman argument and a bigot is. Eve is enriching your life.

I know what both of those things are which is why it makes me sad to see so many people using the phrases who don't know what they mean.

But I guess being smarter than everybody else is what separates the Goons from the unwashed pubbie masses.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#68 - 2011-12-21 06:40:16 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Ivy Sunkiller wrote:
I am more interested in ideas that could make WiS work

Why? Do you secretly want the game to fail?


Wouldn't "making WiS work" imply that it doesn't make the game fail?

Is it so much to ask that they exist in harmony here? It's not like we're talking about matter and anti-matter that cause self destructive explosions when they meet.

If they keep it as optional as it is now and give it a bit of development (75/25 FiS/WiS) then what in god's name is going to effect you in such a way that makes you and every other person in EVE quit in droves?

I wasn't the WiS concept alone that caused riots, it was the possibility of non-vanity microtransactions and the fact that WiS wasn't optional.

Now that both of those major points are no longer an issue what do we have left? The fact that it melts computers?

A) They'd fix that by the time i get's to be multiplayer anwyay.
B) If you don't like it and don't use it then why do you care?

EVE doesn't need to be pushed into being social, but it needs more avenues to allow us to be more social as we want.

For instance an ability to create and join groups independent of corporations. That way, for instance 80% of this thread can join the "I hate WiS" group xD

Don't like it? then don't join the effing group! gawd.... (and for those of you really anti-socials you'll need an option to hide the existence of groups altogether on char sheets that you view.)

The Drake is a Lie
Arcathra
Technodyne Ltd.
#69 - 2011-12-21 07:50:21 UTC
Anything that expands the sandbox is in the spirit of EVE. WiS could add to the sandbox in many ways. Done right, it won't "fail the game", it would add to it.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#70 - 2011-12-21 12:27:19 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
[The usual predictable Goon-trash]


Internet-Spaceship Cat says:

Ur gennerul direkshun: I fartz in it!

Ni.
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2011-12-21 13:47:42 UTC
Stikes me that you're playing eve like a 13 year olds school disco.

Get on the dance floor already, it's more fun, you don't need WiS for this.
Taiwanistan
#72 - 2011-12-21 13:54:54 UTC
Arcathra wrote:
Anything that expands the sandbox is in the spirit of EVE. WiS could add to the sandbox in many ways. Done right, it won't "fail the game", it would add to it.

wis would be a turd in the sandbox
get out

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
Disdaine
#73 - 2011-12-21 14:20:15 UTC
Ivy Sunkiller wrote:
Quick three points about WiS:

  1. It can't be prioritized over the FiS game that makes EVE what it is.
  2. It can't be just a gimmick/social hub but actually needs to serve a purpose.
  3. It needs to be completely optional for those players who never want to leave their capsules and couldn't care less about captain quarters, not to mention stations.


Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2011-12-21 14:31:13 UTC
Taiwanistan wrote:
Arcathra wrote:
Anything that expands the sandbox is in the spirit of EVE. WiS could add to the sandbox in many ways. Done right, it won't "fail the game", it would add to it.

wis would be a turd in the sandbox
get out


In the end it's the people like you that will kill this game. You cry that CCP are neglecting the old members and the old content (FW) and you prevent CCP from doing anything new and exiting... Are you familiar with the phrase "you can't polish a turd"?

We are standing up and saying we want eve to evolve but what do you want??? Because from were i'm standing you are just asking CCP to polish the same old tired content and that's just a beta in my book.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#75 - 2011-12-21 14:54:53 UTC
Moved from General Discussion.

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer
Taiwanistan
#76 - 2011-12-22 04:49:47 UTC
Disdaine wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Disdaine wrote:
Goon bigots

lol

bigot : a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
Quote:

worst kind of scum
straight up social gaming faggotry
goddamn korean agenda

Look on the brightside Harlot, at least now you know what a strawman argument and a bigot is. Eve is enriching your life.


actually i was just rebuking your insolence

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
Taiwanistan
#77 - 2011-12-22 05:01:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Taiwanistan
heh F&I a more polite way of locking shitt threads
happened to me too

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."