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Indahmawar Fazmarai

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#41 - 2015-02-25 07:39:34 UTC

Arthur Aihaken wrote:

CCP Falcon wrote:

That's exactly what the deal is. The CONCORD Assembly is basically the space UN.

If CONCORD is the equivalent of the space "UN", I'm amazed that CONCORD even shows up when a ship is ganked (you'd think they'd be stuck in perpetual meetings debating whether or not to send a response)...

That's because CONCORD owns the largest military force in New Eden and there's no "Security Council" to tie their arms to their back when it would be inconvenient for "someone" in the "Security Council" if CONCORD pew pewed accordingly to its fundational principles.

Tuttomenui II

Aliastra

Gallente Federation

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#42 - 2015-02-25 09:36:45 UTC

Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:

Arthur Aihaken wrote:

CCP Falcon wrote:

That's exactly what the deal is. The CONCORD Assembly is basically the space UN.

Na... lore wise I bet there is a security council for inter-empire stuff, but capsuleers are all pretty much privateers. Concord get off on killing us. What delay there is in the response is probably due to them drawing straws on who gets to respond.

The battle of Caldari Prime is a good example, even after losing a Concord ship to the Caldari Navy Concord just decided to back off and let the children work it out for themselves. And ignore the privateers in retaliation.

Shilliam Watner

Axis of Evil Emporium Imperium

Novus Ordo.

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#43 - 2015-02-25 10:02:21 UTC

CCP Falcon wrote:

Kiandoshia wrote:

CCP Falcon wrote:

CONCORD Assembly - they have the ability to keep everyone in check.

I never quite understood why CONCORD doesn't simply just says screw it all, blows everyone up and proclaims galaxy wide peace.

Is there some kind of UN type of deal going on there?

That's exactly what the deal is. The CONCORD Assembly is basically the space UN.

Lol

Which empire gave CONCORD that space?

flapie 2

Malevelon Roe Industries

Convocation of Empyreans

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#44 - 2015-02-25 12:48:50 UTC | Edited by: flapie 2

Not sure if there still are. but fits and ship stats i have seen (DEV/MOD fitting manager links on TQ (no idea where they came from though)) allowed insight on there raw stats (much like the infamous Polaris fits)) a year or 2 (maybe 3, maybe more) ago were off the charts (possible to prevent a Zombie drama in the future). ECM that was far beyond numbers we would ever be able to reach or break, and resist nicely rounded to 100% across the board.

Not sure if those are actually used ship stats for the NPC ships, might have just been DEV toys to test stuff in Jove space and or to prepare there ship balance for if there ever going to be released as faction ships for capsuleers. Then again hearing the story's and seeing things around attempts to gank Concords ships make me suspect, those were actual ship stats to prevent massive High-Sec drama (they proll split them up by now into faction ships and special NPC versions so they have normal stats if they ever need to be released or awards for some kind of event, most jove ships had the same type of stats when those fits where roaming around the local trade hub chats).

I only missed the high-sec Concord VS Titan ship on SISI by a few minutes, and later tried it myself with a carrier else where, to come back highly disappointed as i never was able to put a dent into one of the ships before my Thanny (matter of seconds proll the same as with the titan) went down like a beer on a pub crawl ;) Not sure if your even allowed to test those type of things anymore on SISI now-a-days, lots of rules and regulations have been added since those days.

And looking at events from the past and present (Jita burns anyone ?) this is most likely best for us all.

Im silently hoping someday soon the ships will be released as faction ships (rather sooner then later tbh), but i doubt that will change the stats used on the actual NPC ships to protect our High-Sec assets (for as far as protection goes these day anyway).

Bob Maths

Federal Navy Academy

Gallente Federation

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#45 - 2015-02-25 13:16:42 UTC | Edited by: Bob Maths

Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:

Arthur Aihaken wrote:

CCP Falcon wrote:

That's exactly what the deal is. The CONCORD Assembly is basically the space UN.

Capsuleers are not sovereign nations nor are they major powers or economic forces. They're private individuals, corporations and conglomerates thus are not subject to the whimsical bueracracy that pervades government organisations. The UN has its own standing army which is what I assume CCP Falcon was hinting at. It'd be more like the UN peacekeeping forces maintaining the peace against mercenary corps from attacking other mercenaries groups or private individuals of particular status whilst ejecting rogue groups where there is no permitting of conflict (which is like say for instance how conflict works in the real world) in Europe or other parts of the world which are stable relatively inside their territories.

Leannor

State War Academy

Caldari State

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#46 - 2015-02-25 13:34:57 UTC

Bob Maths wrote:

Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:

Arthur Aihaken wrote:

CCP Falcon wrote:

That's exactly what the deal is. The CONCORD Assembly is basically the space UN.

Capsuleers are not sovereign nations nor are they major powers or economic forces. They're private individuals, corporations and conglomerates thus arenot subject to the whimsical bueracracy that pervades government organisations. The UN has its own standing army which is what I assume CCP Falcon was hinting at. It'd be more like the UN peacekeeping forces maintaining the peace against mercenary corps from attacking other mercenaries groups or private individuals of particular status whilst ejecting rogue groups where there is no permitting of conflict (which is like say for instance how conflict works in the real world) in Europe or other parts of the world which are stable relatively inside their territories.

speak for yourself, I've known many just like that lol

"Lykouleon wrote:

STOP TOUCHING ICONIC SHIP PARTS"

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Davey Talvanen Kingsparrow Wormhole Division Birds of Prey. Likes received: 35	#47 - 2015-02-25 13:41:07 UTC Aiwha wrote: Fun fact. CONCORD line ships are classed as drones. Ready the tin foil. BRAVE comms had already figured out that CONCORD were simply drones deployed from the tech VI ships : Space Unicorns

Shadow Legions. SONS of BANE 1,764
Seven Koskanaiken Shadow Legions. SONS of BANE Likes received: 1,764	#48 - 2015-02-25 13:49:20 UTC In the Angel Epic Arc there's a CONCORD ship you can beat in a frigate.

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Amakish Snipes Incorporated UK Likes received: 20	#49 - 2015-02-27 14:44:38 UTC If i remember correctly concord has jove technology thatcan interfere with capsules hence why you are jammed and basicly blow up more or less instantly. they dont really destroy you with guns but take over your ship and make it self destruct :) concord ships dont have that power over regular vessel which is why minmatar and other factions are able to destroy them

Herzog Wolfhammer

Sigma Special Tactics Group

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#50 - 2015-02-27 16:30:52 UTC

Jandice Ymladris wrote:

Can Concord be beaten? In it's current state it needs some serious co-ordination & firepower. Players attempted to gank a Concord ship late 2013, but the chaots turned it into a shooting gallery for the Concord Police Commander.
Read about it here: 'Capsuleers fail to organize a gank on Concord'

Hairtrigger wrote:

once uopn a time conc were very killable.

a helpfull corp called zombies went to prove this in the old trade hub that was yulai.

many conc were killed, many zombies banned when they told ccp to go forth and procreate when asked to stop the slaughter.

Nice to see someone else recall it was the Zombies who did this. Note the participating Zombies all received a 3 day ban, so it was a temp ban.
In response to this, CCP also revamped Concord, with the most notable addition: the Concord Killbeam (only fitted on Concord Police Commander battleships). have a read about it here: 'EvE History: Zombies defied Concord, leading to their revamp'

Ever since, tanking concord has become a thing of the past (Killing a concord response ship also became a thing of the past, despite several attempts over the years)

Frostys Virpio wrote:

CCP Falcon wrote:

Caldari Navy - The Caldari Navy's fleet is the youngest and most sophisticated. Average fleet age is less than 20 years.

How advanced can you be when your carrier design is a re-purposed tanker?

The Chimera carrier is a full blown carrier, but one of the few ships that escaped the early Caldari design philosophy 'Function over form'. By Lore, the Chimera resemble the water-freighter converted to carrier commanded by the hero that saved the State during the Gallente attack & bombing at the start of the first Caldari-Gallente war.
You can read more about the heroics here: 'Hero of the State, Admiral Yakiya Tovil-Toba'. In this light, the Chimera resembling this makeshift carrier of old is to inspire their fellow Navy recruits to perform heroic deeds themselves & never give up, no matter the odds.

The story has a little touch of Space Battleship Yamato in it.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Princess Cherista

Doomheim

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#51 - 2015-02-27 17:37:59 UTC

Dicerson Morpheous wrote:

So i just read a post by CCP Falcon that i found on This week in EVE #69.

If the CONCORD aren't using hyper advanced jove technology, merely OP amalgamations of the 4 factions' ships, does this mean, with the right number and combination of ships, the CONCORD could be beaten?

You cant beat anything if you're jammed and have no cap, which is the first thing Concord does to you.

Daniel Jackson

Universal Exos

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#52 - 2015-03-01 20:10:09 UTC

Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:

Legends speak of a time when CONCORD was beatable, and when a CONCORD ship was felled in battle, 2 more arrived to seek vengeance for it.

Also, the legends say nothing about calling them "the CONCORD". Stop that. It annoys them.

i was around during that time so i can atest to that being true

I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!!

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Talon SilverHawk Patria o Muerte Likes received: 739	#53 - 2015-03-01 21:34:47 UTC You could once, which is why you can't now : ) Tal

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Iroquoiss Pliskin 9B30FF Labs Likes received: 783	#54 - 2015-03-01 23:10:41 UTC \| Edited by: Iroquoiss Pliskin Of relevance, watch this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiE8_pz013g Gooby pls // [PvP Damage Done by Class (Scylla)] // [Cruisers Online]