Player Features and Ideas Discussion

It's been argued to death already, and like said before the devs have stated they dont want to implement anything like it; as they believe it goes against the grain so to speak.

It really boils down to whether or not you like the idea from the get go or don't. (actually alliance tourney style not some half baked WIS "simulation" crap.)

In any case even if the devs did change their minds you wouldnt see it for years....and how other patches are done it would be incomplete.

SUP all the bitter vets in this thread. This would help out eve a lot. Even if it is a once every 2 weeks, month thing.

PvP arena working on similar bases as annual tournaments... sure, why not? Could be fun.

I think you're getting lost in the alternatives and snappy responses people are giving you.

The trolling is tradition here and often humorous.. I find it part of game content and you just need to look past the barbed responses and move on... some of the responses do say something and the others are just chatter.

People are giving you alternatives because they're actually being sympathetic to your desires and pointing out ways you can accomplish what you want to do.

Eve is more than a "game" in the sense many people unfamiliar with the tradition of D&D and test MUD's and select mmorgs understand.

It is a persistant virtual world and game content is influenced very heavily by the interaction between players.. economically, politically, and militarly.

That is not limited to null sec. Small bands of pirates staking claims to low sec systems... charging ransomes.. blackmailing pos owners. etc... empire corps who war dec other corps in an unsolicited manner to steel the nerves of relative new comers to the dark arts of battle . The traders, who work out deals among themselves in regions, or battle till others loose interest, to be dominant suppliers and build mini hubs.

What goes on in this virtual world influences other things in the virtual world. The sense of contextual value is vital to the buy-in to the larger political and military structures where the collection of things like kill-mails provide a certain backbone in how people judge their peers performance ....and different people will look at the same numbers differently ... few look at things just by one raw percentage or value percentage performance above a certain point as worthwhile.

Industrialists who care not one whit about kill mails still often care that each ship is valuable.. that each ship represents a certain number or minutes or hours of a person's time to mine ore, build skills, fund posses for construction, improve blue-prints etc. An arena system suggests an inevitable move to ships that respawn...even if not initially the fear is a gradual slip that way.

The industrialists experience in the contextual reality of the virtual world is diminished when you have larger portions of the virtual world able to ignore the realities that ships take the efforts described above.

There are a myriad of other issues .. not all people feel the same way , yet the existence of the arena alternative can skew game experience.

As is is now, even as a regular pvp player you may only have a few hundred battles a year... having more would require quite a bit of game time, or a decided focus on very hot spots....gate camping for hours or joining mosh pits in old man star.... but even then...more than a dozen fights is unlikely.

When you have had less fights, each remains a more vivid memory..... the hunt for a kil (and this game is more about the hunt than the kill for much of the game) loses motivation when you can just jump into an arena... it changes expectations.

Even if they chose not to participate in arena's its likely that many corp mates , or potential corp mates might. The shared social experience of shared memories "Remember that time when we took out that curse with two rifters !" loses meaning if people kill Curses each night in 50 battles a night.

Arenas do have the potential to vastly change the contextual experience in the game for all players... not just those participating.

/Maxpie waves his fingers in a Jedi-like manner

"This isn't the game you are looking for..."



Seriously, STO, SW: TOR, or basically every other game out there. Cant' we have one...just one...game that's in any way different from the rest of the drivel?

Without conseence?

Remember that EVE trainer which drivelled on about butterfly wings and then went on to call it the Sandbox? The one which said that every action had a consequence somewhere?

It then went on on to say "Welcome to EVE"

And this is why I play.

no

i wouldnt mind a pvp arena.

no one can interfere
based on ship class so frigate, cruiser, BC, ect arenas 1v1
you can loot the field
pay a fee to engage in pvp arena for a nice isk sink along with the mineral sink

however, you will lose your ship, and modules and other stuff its just a way to have the 1v1 cans that aren't really traps.

I disagree with fighting without consequence. As others pointed out, you can do that on the test server.

I think it'd be interesting to have a system put in place that allows for regular tournaments, instead of waiting once a year for the CCP-funded one. A specific system central to galaxy in hisec where people fleet up on opposing gates and warp into an arena that then is locked from outside interference. (command boosts included, unless on grid).

Something along the lines of 1v1, 3v3, 5v5, 10v10, with a calculation done of the fleet members ships, each ship having the same point value as in the AT. Maybe even a free-for all?

But, whatever dies, the drops belong to the victor. Bets could be made on matches, and Hell, let the damned TV's in the CQ's stream matches. Also, the entry fee is a good idea, possibly tied to the SP of the pilots involved, so pilots with more SP should pay more (maybe their SP value?) and that goes into a combined pot from both sides, which goes to the winner on top of the drops.

+ 1 for the arena. It would have been a great help when i first started playing.

Would be cool if we could place bets on fights also.