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Ganking Miners From Wormholes
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HTC NecoSino
Suddenly Carebears
Verlate
#21 - 2015-02-24 18:03:29 UTC
Speaking of the Brave Collective, it's been nice to see them welping fleets into us lately. I think we're up to 3 carriers this year just off of them, with very little red to show for it.
Tim Nering
R3d Fire
#22 - 2015-02-24 19:50:34 UTC
Kyle Lonestar wrote:
2 options really.

1 - Log off where you need to be.
2 - Find the closest system exit to your bookmark and make sure thats where you leave/return from. It will minimize your distance thus cut down the time you spend in warp. If that means scanning a new wormhole to hide in, so be it. But make sure you entry point into the system is as close to you bookmark as possible.


Really #1 is by far the best option when it comes to null hunting.

Wormholes though are a bit easier in that regard. No local to give away your presence. Just be careful, I've known people who bait in mining ships trying to take out bombers.


i have been exiting my wormhole chain into the system with the miners in it. i didnt do like a few jumps of null or anything.

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HTC NecoSino
Suddenly Carebears
Verlate
#23 - 2015-02-24 20:03:30 UTC
Plus, cloaky alts watching neighboring systems anyway.

Nerf AFK cloaky plz
Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#24 - 2015-02-24 20:57:53 UTC
HTC NecoSino wrote:
Plus, cloaky alts watching neighboring systems anyway.

Nerf AFK cloaky plz



If they are AFK, they can't report you... Roll

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Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#25 - 2015-02-25 00:10:30 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
get something cloaky <20km
warp sabre in
???
proft



Yeah. No one ever thought of that.

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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#26 - 2015-02-28 03:23:40 UTC
The normal tactic is for the miners to warp back to their pos / station when local has a baddie in it. Figure out where their safe haven is. If they warp back to a station or pos put a bm on their safe haven inline w/ thier belt. Go goof off for a bit (15 min to an hour - go scan for other targets to let this one respawn). When you jump your sabre in after the respawn time - don't warp to the belt, warp to the bubble spot and pop one out. Wait and see if you get them.

It's basically a race between you getting to the bubble spot and popping up a bubble and them initiating warp. The on the ball guys - you probably won't catch. Some folks get lazy and you can get there in time. It was easier before recons D-scan immunity because in large systems a lot of folks would note additions to local then watch d-scan for trouble. Now waiting for trouble to appear on d-scan is less likely.

Improving your odds: Fuller systems mean a better chance you can get in and get a bubble up before they get into warp. Your odds of getting an actual fight may go up depending on who's system it is.

Fun facts:
1. The further it is from the belt to the safe haven (station/pos) reduces the need for bubble accuracy.
2. 320km from a POS keeps you out of POS defense range, but lets you pop the targets while the look longingly at their just out of reach POS shields. (you occaisionally get a piece of tear mail citing various forms of dev hax and declaring your immenent banning for all eternity)
3. On stations be aware of the 150km 'warp to' distance and put your bubble inside or outside of that range based on what you want to possibly happen or not happen next.
4. If you get the bubble up after they get into warp you'll watch as they pass through your leet bubble of doom and land on home plate (this is good fraps footage to torture your buds with).

Oh, once you get the interposing bubble up - just go at them as you see fit. You'll either get them in the belt or flush them into the trap you've placed for them.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2015-02-28 05:39:40 UTC
pop quiz, the range for drag bubbles affecting warp is how many km?

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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#28 - 2015-02-28 05:43:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Serendipity Lost
Rain6637 wrote:
pop quiz, the range for drag bubbles affecting warp is how many km?



Drag bubble range is "on grid". The real question is "How big is a grid?" Which is easy to answer..... right after down time. As the day goes on.... certain grids get kind of 'fuzzy'.


Edit: w/ the introduction of mobile depots, mobile tractors and what not..... right after down time isn't as easy as it used to be.
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