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Female avatars in DUST 514?

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Bane Loppknow
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2011-12-21 23:34:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Bane Loppknow
Based on what one of the characters in the novels does, I'd say they probably have two "bodies"

One is their normal avatar, unique and immortal, male or female.

The other is the stock combat clone, which is male, roided the **** out, expendable, and most importantly cheap.

Chillin in station? You're in your normal body. Dropping into combat? You're in a cheap combat clone. I certainly wouldn't waste my money on fancy things like making my clone match my face when it's just going to get shot up in 5 minutes.

Edit: Also, the whole "women can't go into combat" argument is stupid, on both sides. Fact is: Male body is built with more direct-combat capability, the better to fight off predators, or delay them while the female escapes with the offspring. It's our evolved role. Women are lighter on their feet, more difficult prey to catch. Their evolved role. Both of these roles can play out effectively in combat, but they're still different roles. Like comparing a Scorpion to an Abaddon.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#22 - 2011-12-21 23:36:06 UTC
OP is clearly, just a misogynist that wants to see women being shot, injured and dying; over and over again. P

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Systematic Oppression
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2011-12-22 00:06:05 UTC
It's great to see all the homophobes, misogynists and bigoted evospsych assholes come right out of the woodwork in these here forums. Snipers being "limp wristed"? Do you actually read the garbage you spew before you post or are you just a bad troll that thinks misogyny is funny. Yeah, in our natural un-augmented states, women have less overall muscle mass. Given that in most combat cases people aren't massacring each other with melee weapons now or in the eve universe I scarcely see the relevance.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#24 - 2011-12-22 00:06:17 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
Systematic Oppression wrote:
For those of you who think women can't be soldiers and particularly ground combat soldiers, I'd like to direct you to this historical example. Miss Pavlichenko She was one of the most successful snipers in history and by extension one of history's greatest soldiers.


Yes snipers are known to be a lttile 'limp wristed' all that playing with there 'scope' most likely. Hardley reinforces your idea females make good front line troops. They just aren't physically strong enough to carry the immense weight of equipment and perform to the physical abilties a man can achieve..

Sorry to break the bad news to you..

I'm sure it will not divert your path of 'feminism' failing to appreciate and aknowledge the beauty and varaiance between the sexes.


Women make excellent pilots as well, consistently scoring higher than their male counter parts in many area's. So perhaps you'll see a woman piloting your drop ship, covering your ass while you off load, or perhaps driving everything from a scout car to a heavy tank... which means it would probably be a bad idea to make the obvious "women driver" wise cracks until you are safely back in the lobby after a match. Smile

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ninjaholic
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Pandemic Horde
#25 - 2011-12-22 00:08:50 UTC
In combat I want a brother watching my back, not a girlfriend watching my finely cloned arse.

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Atticus Fynch
#26 - 2011-12-22 00:13:20 UTC
Systematic Oppression wrote:
It's great to see all the homophobes, misogynists and bigoted evospsych assholes come right out of the woodwork in these here forums.



HiYa!!! Big smile

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#27 - 2011-12-22 00:15:25 UTC
ninjaholic wrote:
In combat I want a brother watching my back, not a girlfriend watching my finely cloned arse.


So... you'd rather have a guy watching your ass?

No problem, it's a valid lifestyle choice.

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#28 - 2011-12-22 00:17:35 UTC
Systematic Oppression wrote:
It's great to see all the homophobes, misogynists and bigoted evospsych assholes come right out of the woodwork in these here forums. Snipers being "limp wristed"? Do you actually read the garbage you spew before you post or are you just a bad troll that thinks misogyny is funny. Yeah, in our natural un-augmented states, women have less overall muscle mass. Given that in most combat cases people aren't massacring each other with melee weapons now or in the eve universe I scarcely see the relevance.


Okay, in the same vein.

(Why does there seem to be a gender war going on lately?)

Anyway ... women generally have better eye sight and a better power to weight ratio and since they store energy about their body better, that also means they can eat less - all criteria that is at the top of the list for special forces.

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Othar en'gilliath
Hosse en'gilliath
#29 - 2011-12-22 00:18:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Othar en'gilliath
you guys are funny as hell Twisted

but my whole point is women can fight too.

teh big and burly women * i know a few female firefighters that actually have passed training.

However the whole 200 pound "IT" not male .....those soldiers are ITS ... they are not anatomically correct. and yeah that kinda makes sense

Why wasted all the biomass to make ..."Junk parts"

just as long as i can have a *original customized clone that be cool

Id like to have a console game that just as complex as eve dammit ...and pretty.


Space barbie dammit! i want my dust barbie too!Cool



haters gonna hate


*quick edit I am a man and I respect women, They give life after all, and am dam well sure the can take it too!!
Mr M
Sebiestor Tribe
#30 - 2011-12-22 00:18:33 UTC
Chick soldiers in thong armour.

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#31 - 2011-12-22 00:22:03 UTC
Although, if they are going to grow something for land based war, why use something as slow and squishy as a human form?

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#32 - 2011-12-22 00:22:44 UTC
Systematic Oppression wrote:
It's great to see all the homophobes, misogynists and bigoted evospsych assholes come right out of the woodwork in these here forums. Snipers being "limp wristed"? Do you actually read the garbage you spew before you post or are you just a bad troll that thinks misogyny is funny. Yeah, in our natural un-augmented states, women have less overall muscle mass. Given that in most combat cases people aren't massacring each other with melee weapons now or in the eve universe I scarcely see the relevance.



Not melee weapons no, but taking conastant kick from an automatic weapon, while carying enough that it would make an average man weak, plus satying highly mobile is no easy physical task.

Call me what you will, the facts of biology won't comply to your anger.

Woman sacrifice much of there physical abilties to be able to achieve the miracle of childbirth, a biological entity has a 'hard cap' on what it can achieve.

Interesting as pointed out with rangers piloting comment, females of the species (while being more deadly than the male obviously Roll) are also diffrent intellectually. They have a more 'broad spectrum' of awarness, and could see how that would be an advantage in 'tactical' combat situation, including naval technical staff.

And finally woman are diffent emotinally as well, 'hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" (see also earlier 'woman are more deadly ... etc.') , they either love you or hate you.

Perhaps you could come up with a nice title to stereotype my attitude with.

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Othar en'gilliath
Hosse en'gilliath
#33 - 2011-12-22 00:23:55 UTC
Mr M wrote:
Chick soldiers in thong armour.



:/ i never understood this thats just game company going after us weak willed men


goddammit why are they so smart!


Anyway female Commander Shepard with her armor is ohhhh so much better :)

now stay on topic my twisted eve friends
Dr Karsun
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club
#34 - 2011-12-22 00:24:03 UTC
I don't think we'll see any kind of females on the battleground.

The so called "soldiers" will just be stock clones created purely for the purpose of getting down there, getting killed and killing. After they are used, considering we, DEMIGODS (from humans perspective) just dropped an entire army for the equivalent of our 20 minute grind... Well, I think we leave them there to rot and the mind goes back to the rightfull owner.

Those are like pvp jump clones, stripped of everything unnecessary, hair, genitals, etc.

Remember, we are their lords and masters, we throw money beyond their recognition... You remember that future of eve vid? A couple mil for a top-of-the-line tank? 50 mil will get you an entire well equipped unit of soldiers, with guns, tanks, jets, choppers, etc.

Don't expect any more from the land clones - they are just meat. The equipment MAYBE we will salvage.

You will see boobs in stations - that I assure you ^^

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Othar en'gilliath
Hosse en'gilliath
#35 - 2011-12-22 00:27:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Othar en'gilliath
Dr Karsun wrote:
I don't think we'll see any kind of females on the battleground.

The so called "soldiers" will just be stock clones created purely for the purpose of getting down there, getting killed and killing. After they are used, considering we, DEMIGODS (from humans perspective) just dropped an entire army for the equivalent of our 20 minute grind... Well, I think we leave them there to rot and the mind goes back to the rightfull owner.

Those are like pvp jump clones, stripped of everything unnecessary, hair, genitals, etc.

Remember, we are their lords and masters, we throw money beyond their recognition... You remember that future of eve vid? A couple mil for a top-of-the-line tank? 50 mil will get you an entire well equipped unit of soldiers, with guns, tanks, jets, choppers, etc.

Don't expect any more from the land clones - they are just meat. The equipment MAYBE we will salvage.

You will see boobs in stations - that I assure you ^^


yeah well my character ....my avatar for dust wants a female name and body!! a ....none meat bag one! dammit!

my role play is nevah going to come true!!

sad pandaX

quick edit* what your saying make 100% sense :)

one can wish though :/
ninjaholic
Tactical Feed.
Pandemic Horde
#36 - 2011-12-22 00:48:32 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
So... you'd rather have a guy watching your ass?


Dood, you're in Narnia if that's what you read.

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Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#37 - 2011-12-22 00:53:56 UTC
ninjaholic wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
So... you'd rather have a guy watching your ass?


Dood, you're in Narnia if that's what you read.



Well you know people read what they want to read into things don't they What?

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ninjaholic
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Pandemic Horde
#38 - 2011-12-22 01:12:20 UTC  |  Edited by: ninjaholic
I'm sure this isn't the only case where what he says and what he does differs. Totally agreed Prof. Alphane.

I should have my avatar put a shirt on lest he overexcite himself and watch a brother's ass.

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Youwai
Perkone
Caldari State
#39 - 2011-12-22 01:21:09 UTC
Othar en'gilliath wrote:
Yeah i know blah

But i've been reading every bit of info and all am seeing is 200 pound ITS !

So CCP Will there be female characters for dust?

attention whore detected.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#40 - 2011-12-22 01:44:13 UTC
ninjaholic wrote:
I'm sure this isn't the only case where what he says and what he does differs. Totally agreed Prof. Alphane.

I should have my avatar put a shirt on lest he overexcite himself and watch a brother's ass.


Me thinks you protesteth too much.

(It was a joke you homophobic twit.) Smile

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