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My ULTIMATE FAVORITE L4 setup. And it's CRUISER SIZED. (Gila)
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Ghelisis Achasse
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-02-23 21:14:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Ghelisis Achasse
This thing has more or less replaced my Typhoon for Level 4 missions, and my shield seldom gets below 50%. The only problem I have is in Worlds Collide, because if I don't take out the battleships fast enough, they will break my tank. It's never happened but I have gotten down to 25% shields on that one. This is where the Gila bonuses come in handy. I can stay away from the battleships and let my drones do the killin'.

Developed this on SiSi, and it performs WONDERFULLY.

I also have a video of it in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSKQ2MCxidk


L4 Gila (560 drone DPS)


[High]
2x Drone Link Augmentator II

[Medium]
2x Large Shield Extender II
2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
1x Cap Recharger II
1x Experimental 10MN Afterburner I (Needed to keep transversal. Big things will NOT hit as hard as they would, or miss you entirely.)

[Low]
1x Damage Control II
3x Drone Damage Amplifier II

[Rig]
1x Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
1x Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
1x Medium Drone Durability Enhancer I

[Drone Bay]
8x Hammerhead II
4x Salvage Drone I

[Cargo bay]
Mobile Tractor Unit
Cephelange du'Krevviq
Gildinous Vangaurd
The Initiative.
#2 - 2015-02-23 21:17:59 UTC
I'm curious - for the "Worlds Collide," wouldn't it be better to fit the two specific hardeners for the first half, carry a mobile depot and the hardeners for the other half in your cargo hold?

"I am a leaf on the...ah, frak it!"
Garrett Osinov
Doomheim
#3 - 2015-02-23 21:40:58 UTC
Ghelisis Achasse wrote:
This thing has more or less replaced my Typhoon for Level 4 missions, and my shield seldom gets below 50%. The only problem I have is in Worlds Collide, because if I don't take out the battleships fast enough, they will break my tank. It's never happened but I have gotten down to 25% shields on that one. This is where the Gila bonuses come in handy. I can stay away from the battleships and let my drones do the killin'.

Developed this on SiSi, and it performs WONDERFULLY.

I also have a video of it in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSKQ2MCxidk


L4 Gila (560 drone DPS)


[High]
2x Drone Link Augmentator II

[Medium]
2x Large Shield Extender II
2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
1x Cap Recharger II
1x Experimental 10MN Afterburner I (Needed to keep transversal. Big things will NOT hit as hard as they would, or miss you entirely.)

[Low]
1x Damage Control II
3x Drone Damage Amplifier II

[Rig]
1x Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
1x Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
1x Medium Drone Durability Enhancer I

[Drone Bay]
8x Hammerhead II
4x Salvage Drone I

[Cargo bay]
Mobile Tractor Unit



This is much better fit

2 shield extenders
3 hardeners
1 corelum c type ab

4 rapid light launchers
1 drone link augmentor

3-4 drone damage amplifier t2
0-2 shield power relays

rigs shield purger rigs.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2015-02-23 22:29:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiddle Jr
It's true, you better use mission specific hardeners vs. two invuls.

Rigs are doubtfull. Why not to try purged gila?

Or swap you buff tank for active fit with sb. Try different combinations.

I was running WoC on a single myrmidon that was fun.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#5 - 2015-02-24 06:51:15 UTC
OP why cap recharger? Gila is cap stable with three hardeners.

"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#6 - 2015-02-24 08:07:51 UTC
This is terrible in so many ways.
Garrett Osinov
Doomheim
#7 - 2015-02-24 09:19:04 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
It's true, you better use mission specific hardeners vs. two invuls.

Rigs are doubtfull. Why not to try purged gila?

Or swap you buff tank for active fit with sb. Try different combinations.

I was running WoC on a single myrmidon that was fun.


Active fit with med booster boosts less then passive fit. WIth large booster it cannot be cap stable and do decent damage.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2015-02-24 09:47:55 UTC
Garrett Osinov wrote:
Tiddle Jr wrote:
It's true, you better use mission specific hardeners vs. two invuls.

Rigs are doubtfull. Why not to try purged gila?

Or swap you buff tank for active fit with sb. Try different combinations.

I was running WoC on a single myrmidon that was fun.


Active fit with med booster boosts less then passive fit. WIth large booster it cannot be cap stable and do decent damage.


Why do you need a cap stable? You don't run all active mods all the time. Cap stable phylosophy are followed by newbies, cause they think it's a core thing but it is not.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Kirobacsi
Doomheim
#9 - 2015-02-24 10:52:05 UTC
i couldnt imagine running missions in anything less than 1k dps and high projection, this has half of that, you poor soul.
Garrett Osinov
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-02-24 11:16:20 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
Garrett Osinov wrote:
Tiddle Jr wrote:
It's true, you better use mission specific hardeners vs. two invuls.

Rigs are doubtfull. Why not to try purged gila?

Or swap you buff tank for active fit with sb. Try different combinations.

I was running WoC on a single myrmidon that was fun.


Active fit with med booster boosts less then passive fit. WIth large booster it cannot be cap stable and do decent damage.


Why do you need a cap stable? You don't run all active mods all the time. Cap stable phylosophy are followed by newbies, cause they think it's a core thing but it is not.


It's an AFK philosophy. Drop MTU, orbit mtu, launch drones and go for a cup of coffee. Come back and everything is cleared.
Garrett Osinov
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-02-24 11:17:18 UTC
Kirobacsi wrote:
i couldnt imagine running missions in anything less than 1k dps and high projection, this has half of that, you poor soul.


Gila is capable of 900 DPS with good skills. Also it hits small / med targets easily.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2015-02-24 11:44:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiddle Jr
I simply did't run them afk.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#13 - 2015-02-24 12:39:16 UTC
Garrett Osinov wrote:
Kirobacsi wrote:
i couldnt imagine running missions in anything less than 1k dps and high projection, this has half of that, you poor soul.


Gila is capable of 900 DPS with good skills. Also it hits small / med targets easily.


Turrets don't have flight timeBlink
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-02-24 15:29:27 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Garrett Osinov wrote:
Kirobacsi wrote:
i couldnt imagine running missions in anything less than 1k dps and high projection, this has half of that, you poor soul.


Gila is capable of 900 DPS with good skills. Also it hits small / med targets easily.


Turrets don't have flight timeBlink


The gila is pretty forgiving to poor user with the total cap requirement being stable and still having some ridic regen. Who needs to learn trigger in "extravagenza" missions when you can passively tank them while your drone chew through battle ship slowly but surely.

It's not the most efficient way to run mission but if you are not bothered by slower income, it's making everything easy.
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#15 - 2015-02-24 16:11:21 UTC
If you have fun doing them that slowly, more power to you. I'd consider stepping up to a Rattlesnake, but that's just me. I do have a few suggestions:

1. Instead of 2x invuls and a cap rehcarger, go for 3x mission-specific hardeners. Your tank will thank you.

2. Instead of an extenders rig and an EM resist rig, go for purger rigs. Passive shield tanking is all about peak shield regen, not buffer, and that EM rig is wasted on many missions.

3. I'm torn on the drone durability rig. It's obviously useful, but the Gila grants such a huge bonus to drone HP that it seems a waste. A third purger rig may be a better option.

4. Why are you fitting no launchers at all? Even a rack of rapid lights will help you finish faster, and they're very handy for killing frigates that are orbiting you at close range.

5. Don't only use Hammerheads. They're good against most targets, but Valks will generally work better against Angel/Minmatar missions.


Good hunting.

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