EVE General Discussion

Ships hanging just outside the FF are less of an issue for me - sure supers will usually escape as you have to be really lucky to actually land a good bump on one in those circumstances and sometimes stuff cynos out but I've seen carriers 90% webbed mere metres outside the FF and die before and they have less chance to escape if you do have intel and crash the gate with a decent force - while its slim there is a window of vulnerability unlike now with various techniques where unless they epically screw up/get extremely lazy if you crash the gate with a decent force they are realistically as safe as if they were docked up and if you do manage to land stuff on them can just shrug it off with the press of the enter button (or a single menu click depending on technique used).

(PS the FF trick isn't the only way to "misuse" POS mechanics to make a capital safe from repercussion).

Thing is what often happens is what looks like a relatively soft target baits/tackles someone on the gate/tries to kite them away from it and by the time the fighters appear trying to burn towards the gate will likely just get you blapped by their first volley.

IIRC you can also assign fighters to a cloaked ship just off grid with the gate to reduce the time it takes for them to arrive at the gate to minimise the chance of someone escaping - at the cost of them potentially being seen on dscan depending on people's settings.

I've a couple of maxed carrier pilots (as in carrier V, fighters/fb V, adi V, etc.) myself and agree with the investment side of it in regards to risk but I also think that if I'm involved in combat I shouldn't be able to be essentially (to all realistic intents and purposes) immune to repercussion and would rather see a balanced solution to the problem rather than see carriers/fighters nerfed into oblivion as a knee jerk reaction.

This thread would likely not exist if it was just people sitting on the edge of a FF.

Well then whats the problem?

One of the common techniques is to sit right by the control tower of a "reset" POS with the forcefield not yet activated with the dialog open to bring it up. There are also ways to otherwise "misuse" POS mechanics as well though less common that don't mean having to move back into FF radius to be perfectly safe if threatened.

So even if you work out a way to evade the gatecamp/don't take the bait, you don't have a chance to engage the carrier (if the people doing it know what they are doing) which is the source of a lot of complaints.

The really great thing is that you don't even need to aggress. You can order your assisted fighters to attack the target and if you don't aggress with another offensive mod, you are able to immediately jump gate or dock if things do go bad without having to wait out a pesky 1 minute aggression timer.

Just for some tinfoilery*, Skynet is a military satellite communications network that's been in operation since 1974.

Terminator was 1984 and according to the film the Cyberdyne Systems computer went postal in 1997.

*Doppelganger of my mates brother

This isn't new, it is however becoming a problem as more and more people sit casually in a super.