Player Features and Ideas Discussion

What needs to be added is transferring kill rights to the bounty hunter in some form.

Id imagine bounty hunting could work like this:

If person A has kill rights on person B, person A puts up a bounty hunting 'contract' with x amount of isk as bounty. Bounty hunter C then accepts the contract (the bounty hunting contracts would be public like bounties currently). There should propably be some nominal amount of isk from the bounty hunter to be placed in collateral, to prevent people from accepting this stuff without intention of fulfilling the contract. THe collateral should propably be set by the person creating the bounty contract.

When bounty hunter C accepts the bounty contract, he gets player A's kill rights copied to him. Bounty hunter C then goes forward and pods player B and fulfills the contract. Then he gets his collateral back and the bounty reward.

- The bounty contract cannot be accepted by the person who is the bounty, ie. person B in this case. This to remove the 'suiciding' aspect of player bounties. Where target commits suicide and gets the bounty himself.
- There can be only one bounty hunter to accept the given contract at a time, but person A can put up as many bounty contracts as his contracting skill allows to. In each case, his kill rights are copied to the person accepting the contract.
- One person cannot accept multiple bounty contracts with the same target. This to prevent the intended targets friends nullifying the bounties by accepting all the bounty contracts.

- bounty contracts should be able to be placed on people with -2 sec status or below just like now, but then no kill rights would be transferred over. I know that I would want to place bounties on corp thieves etc.

This kind of mechanic, turning the player bounties into 'contracts' and transferring kill rights should remove most of what is wrong and not working in current player bounties I feel.

Its up to the hunter to minimize risk and consider whether its worth it.

I just want a system where bounty hunting makes sense.

I can get on board with the removal of it, but people will pretty much go use a locator anyway, and I'm saving the double-hassle of going to do that. Locators provide a good service to people that want to find people extremely fast, but a lot of the times, you get there and they are gone anyway. Even with this system, it might be likely you'll travel to that area and have to do a real search anyway. Removing the instant-locator without removing locator agents in general would only frustrate players that would use a locator anyway.

So the real issue becomes: should locator agents be removed? And if so, will devices be implemented to help us find other people through an in-game system? I suppose you could sit on battleclinic and refresh their kills all day until something marginally recent shows up. Or players could form intel channels with contacts, which would be cool. I think a way to track an individual's kills through an in-game killboard system would be the most efficient, but that would be stepping on a lot of third-party toes. The upside, though, is that in-game track-able stats of bounty-hunter efficiency or mercenary corp effectiveness and decisive war win/loss could be tracked with the implementation of an in-game KB.



I can't agree with this, because once the player gave up his kill rights to the pool, he was handing them off to a "more capable" player. The original holder of the kill rights most likely didn't have the ability to take on his target, and thus is given the advantage of being able to shoot when he is "ready" and the target might not be.

When the hunter accepts the mission, he is granted an opportunity to hunt the target, but shouldn't be given a huge upper hand, since his benefit of all this is the pay.

It's reasonable for someone to be upset at dying and to be willing to place a bounty on someone's head. It happens already in game and isn't the broken part of the system. In Star Wars, Han screwed Jabba and the Empire, so they paid to get his ass.

This system isn't impossible to scam, but the randomness of the mission/contract generation will pit someone against another person, where one is a bounty hunter looking to maximize his ISK return and the other is a target that more than likely enjoys some pvp (as he either had kill rights assigned to him, or he had low sec status), and since neither knows the other, there would have to be a big jump to gain trust.


The drawback becomes: what if he's never in a ship bigger than the bounty? A hunter is presented the choice of hunting for either a simple kill for the money (if presented the opportunity) or he can wait for them to roll out the tasty mission ship and potentially get better drops than originally planned. I know when I collect my kill rights I don't bother chasing them if they are in something cheaper than a Battlecruiser.



I like the standings idea, but feel that perhaps "faction" level hurts a hunter a bit too much. After all, the guy with the bounty is the "bad" one. If anything, I suppose an agent that likes the individual could be upset with you, or if they are in a FW militia corp it could work out.



Interesting idea. I remember when we were debating the finer points of this revamp among my Alliance, we had some reason for the time limit, but it escapes me at the moment, and your idea sounds good to me. This way it becomes a race for the hunters as opposed to a hunter simply racing against an unneccessary clock. I assume we were just thinking of it like any other "mission."



I think things like all missions should be given a lot more choice, especially when you have 10.0 standings with an agent, but I think 50 is a bit excessive, I'm down for a middle ground of 10 or so, with appropriate skills trained to max.

As well as with the amount of missions, a skill should be implemented to allow more bounty hunter missions in progress.


What about the poor noob that shot a can an is -0.1? I think a line should be drawn somewhere based on low security status, and the current -2.0 is pretty good because that's the cutoff for entering 1.0 space. It provides an incentive for the border-line pirates (like myself) to maintain a decent secstatus if I don't want swarms of pissed off Hulk pilots from Hulkageddon IV instantly slapping a 500M bounty on me even though their kill rights have long since expired. I believe I deserve punishment, lol.

i support a change like this, however, where i differ, is that the hunted should not know when someone has taken up the contract on their life (or who they are). if you have 200 mill on your head, you should't be allowed to see it coming, because at that point you should already expect every one you meet to try and kill you.

i dont know if i like the idea of having it be just destroying a ship, because quickly getting in a shuttle for an easy loss kinda ruins the entire hunt.

+1

This makes Bounty Hunting like PvE but more fun

I don't really care what, most ideas are pretty good, but when is something finally going to be done about it!