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Rictor Thellere
Doomheim
#21 - 2015-02-20 22:35:56 UTC
Marnian Veroe wrote:
Rinai Vero wrote:

Or perhaps you mean being the President of a government that quickly affirmed the right of Matari residents to use deadly force in self defense if attacked?


In a civilized society, it is the ******* job of the police forces, not gung-ho vigilantes, be them Matari basking in their victimhood syndrome or not.

If President Roden really wanted to solve the issue, it would have been better to allocate resources to federal agents instead of encouraging the firearms market to flourish even further in the name of 'freedom'.


Asking the police to prevent violence is a bit like expecting Concord to prevent ganks...
both can only act after the fact.
Marnian Veroe
National Republican Party
#22 - 2015-02-20 23:43:49 UTC
And you sincerely believe that free weapons and ammo for civilians is going to suddenly solve the issue and make people safe ?

It sure makes big money though.
Rictor Thellere
Doomheim
#23 - 2015-02-20 23:53:24 UTC
Don't believe I said that,
The right to self defense though... I've got no question on.
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#24 - 2015-02-21 07:51:47 UTC
Marnian Veroe wrote:
And you sincerely believe that free weapons and ammo for civilians is going to suddenly solve the issue and make people safe ?

It sure makes big money though.


I'm confused, is Roden recklessly giving away free weapons and ammo or is he profiteering from increased weapons sales? Which is it?
Marnian Veroe
National Republican Party
#25 - 2015-02-21 10:42:37 UTC
Ha, ha. Very clever.

The latter of course.

Rictor Thellere wrote:
Don't believe I said that,
The right to self defense though... I've got no question on.


Indeed, but so most societies allow. Weren't we speaking about the use of deadly force ?
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#26 - 2015-02-21 14:11:29 UTC
Marnian Veroe wrote:


Rictor Thellere wrote:
Don't believe I said that,
The right to self defense though... I've got no question on.


Indeed, but so most societies allow. Weren't we speaking about the use of deadly force ?


Honestly, its sortof hard to tell with you.
Marnian Veroe
National Republican Party
#27 - 2015-02-21 14:55:17 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:


Or perhaps you mean being the President of a government that quickly affirmed the right of Matari residents to use deadly force in self defense if attacked?


Your words...
Rictor Thellere
Doomheim
#28 - 2015-02-21 15:56:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Rictor Thellere
Not being Matari yourself it's possible you do not see what they are facing because it is outside of your personal experience.
Many of the situations faced by Civilian Matari at the hands of those attackers are indeed life and death.

I find it also ironic that A Capsuleer, and graduate of the Federal Navy Academy who knows full well that shooting back is sometimes the only option would take this position.
Marnian Veroe
National Republican Party
#29 - 2015-02-21 17:41:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Marnian Veroe
The FNA is forming military personnel for military situations, not civilians.

I also would rather prefer to believe that our Federation is not a third-word class civilization where everyone can murder or shoot everyone freely like in a lawless region. This is the Federation, not a backwater Minmatar world like Skarkon or an Angel mudball.

If you are referring to what happens in refugee camps or certain Omega cities that have always been forgotten by our political class, then I am afraid that the root of the issue may be found elsewhere.
Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
#30 - 2015-02-21 19:56:24 UTC
Che Biko wrote:
Any regrets supporting his re-election?

I mean, one month later, all this **** happends...
His preferrence for black clothes...
That bold head...
That pale skin...
That metallic jaw, that streak of iron that runs from the side of his neck to the bottom of his chin....

Even the name Jacus is starting to look suspicious to me.


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Rictor Thellere
Doomheim
#31 - 2015-02-22 04:19:07 UTC
Marnian Veroe wrote:


I also would rather prefer to believe that our Federation is not a third-word class civilization where everyone can murder or shoot everyone freely like in a lawless region.




This is hardly the place for a firearms-control debate, though should either of us ever run for office I'll happily take you up on it.

You will find that none of the doomsday like scenario you suggest has actually happened, wild gangs of Matari are not running around with carte blanche to kill anyone with a dirty look in their faces.

The few incidents there have been have all had due investigation after the fact to deturmin if threat to life did indeed exist.

Far from lawlessness.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#32 - 2015-02-22 12:37:23 UTC
Che Biko wrote:
Any regrets supporting his re-election?

I mean, one month later, all this **** happends...
His preferrence for black clothes...
That bold head...
That pale skin...
That metallic jaw, that streak of iron that runs from the side of his neck to the bottom of his chin....

Even the name Jacus is starting to look suspicious to me.

I'd recommend to value people not by their appearance, but by their merits.
Roden is a anti-human racist, democrat, individualist, fascist, nationalist and a war criminal. He is an enemy of the whole humanity, and this is because of his actions, not looks or clothes.

Those, who voted for him are accomplices of his crimes against humanity and should share with him punishment for his deeds.
And their punishment should be death.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Rictor Thellere
Doomheim
#33 - 2015-02-22 14:13:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Rictor Thellere
With all due respect, The Caldari State has about as much say in Federation elections as I do in the content of Ms. Kims lunchbox.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#34 - 2015-02-22 14:35:21 UTC
Rictor Thellere wrote:
With all due respect, The Caldari State has about as much say in Federation elections as I do in the content of Ms. Kims lunchbox.

Would be true, if Roden and his muppets won't be putting their tentacles into our affairs, won't be trying to occupy our Caldari Prime, our Black Rise, wouldn't torture our prisoners in their camps, won't send their death squads into our worlds, won't attack our ships in order of our planets, won't crashland capital ships on our worlds.

While gallentes continue to hurt us, we WILL get to them, and if they fail to listen our words, we will make them listen to our guns.
For the State!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#35 - 2015-02-26 17:17:09 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Rictor Thellere wrote:
With all due respect, The Caldari State has about as much say in Federation elections as I do in the content of Ms. Kims lunchbox.

Would be true, if Roden and his muppets won't be putting their tentacles into our affairs, won't be trying to occupy our Caldari Prime, our Black Rise, wouldn't torture our prisoners in their camps, won't send their death squads into our worlds, won't attack our ships in order of our planets, won't crashland capital ships on our worlds.

While gallentes continue to hurt us, we WILL get to them, and if they fail to listen our words, we will make them listen to our guns.
For the State!

You really do know how to stick to your guns, I'll give you that much....

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
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