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Where has all the solo PvP gone?
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Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#81 - 2015-02-22 00:18:44 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Renegade Heart wrote:
Maybe you are in the wrong space going after the wrong targets or something? I wouldn't expect to see many in FW plexes. The rest of space however has plenty of non-frigate targets that you can take out solo.

I wasn't referring to FW plexes, specifically - although most will be populated by frigates and destroyers. I just tend to find that the only time battleships undock is to deliver the coup de grace when you've already been tackled and maimed by a group of frigates or destroyers. Players fly what they can afford to lose, which generally means the cheapest ships possible.


Go look inside a WH players fly really crazy ships inside those, thinking they can get away with it no doubt.

Low sec is quite risky for solo battleship pilots, I'll give you that, but you still get them there too.

I'll agree with the sentiment that solo pvp is perhaps harder than before for some players, but that is all your own faults! CCP does not force you to blob up. You bring that on yourselves!

But not everyone blobs all the time Smile
SkyFlyer
The Last Hope
#82 - 2015-02-22 06:11:28 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
SkyFlyer wrote:
There is plenty of Solo PvP in this game you just gotta open your eyes and invest the Time Scouting, Baiting, and for the love of god 1v5 is still solo PvP even if there is Sentries on your Side, not to mention that eveyrone enjoys shooting my shinies :3

Not really... If you fly solo, you're basically just inviting a 5+ player gang drop (this is effectively guaranteed if you're flying anything larger than a cruiser). Broken local (they don't even have to undock to learn you're there), broken D-scan (tells them you're on your own), broken off-grid boosting (park their T3 or command ship 1km outside their POS shield where you can't touch it)...

I parked a battleship on a large hub and it didn't take more than a few minutes to have an interceptor drop and tackle me, at which point there was a huge spike in local and 3-4 more various cruisers and T3s arrived (not too mention whatever else was enroute, estimated at another 3-5 ships).

There's several scenarios:
1. You enter low-sec, anything worth engaging immediately notices the change in local, D-scans, docks, warps to a safe and cloaks or sprints to the safe confines of a POS.
2. You enter low-sec, there's nothing apparent to engage - except for the interceptor that has now undocked and begun actively probing you down. Soon to be followed by a tackle, spike in local and blob drop.
3. You enter low-sec, actually find something to engage (rare) - and successfully attain the coveted solo PvP! Until local spikes and the blob drops on you.
4. You say f**k it and go back to mining or missioning in high-sec.

Solo PvP outside of a frigate is basically dead.





Oh man, this is so wrong i just wanna like throw myself of a bridge [ nothing to do here] , you know im not gonna even give you a proper response except go watch my videos and come back and let me know if you still feel this way.

If you can't defend yourself vs 5 people then tbh they know what their doing but its still gonna be a good fight.

PS: Also high sec pvp aint real pvp yo
SkyFlyer
The Last Hope
#83 - 2015-02-22 06:16:39 UTC
I know this will be a double post but man i'm going to have some strong feelings at this.

As one of the Solo PvPers out there, this solo PvP Shiz ain't dead :<

Like to solo PvP is easy:

Pick your Ship.
Scout the Killboard (zkillboard)
Enter your Dest and off you go.
On the way you'll get a fight that will satisfy you

or

you get fcked so hard, you get another ship and do it again : )

Just look at this:

https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98365551/

All basically Solo/Duo PvP + there is Videos to this:

(can't link due to work)

But go to Youtube.com -> Type in Cruising Lands: The Return of SkyFlyer.

?????????

Profit
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#84 - 2015-02-22 06:24:02 UTC
Another whiner...
Surprise

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] " ย  CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diศผk joke."ย Robin Williams - RIP
SkyFlyer
The Last Hope
#85 - 2015-02-22 07:25:58 UTC
I know right? whining gets ya no where, just keep doing the Solo PvPing and it works out eventually! lol
crown jewels
Doomheim
#86 - 2015-02-22 07:52:48 UTC
that's easy to answer they all moved to go seal clubbing in high sec , soon they have to install traffic light with players waiting to kill the undefended and you know what they are called the ankers
Chapmonious Hunter
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#87 - 2015-02-22 09:59:36 UTC
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Too much ambiguity and variations in SP's for me and other friends I've talked to regarding pvp and solo fights. There needs to be some bench mark or level system in regards to a players points. Yes a dude with 70 million SP will rofl stomp the dude with 7million. With damage modifiers maxed out along with general resists (defenses) maxed out, why bother as a new player? Stroke the veterans ego? No thanks!

i.e for every 10 million sp you earn you'd gain a level. Just an idea?๐Ÿ˜—


no...just stop
Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#88 - 2015-02-22 10:54:36 UTC
SkyFlyer wrote:
PS: Also high sec pvp aint real pvp yo


Are you mad? High Sec PvP is truly elite!
BrundleMeth
State War Academy
Caldari State
#89 - 2015-02-22 10:56:30 UTC
Chapmonious Hunter wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Too much ambiguity and variations in SP's for me and other friends I've talked to regarding pvp and solo fights. There needs to be some bench mark or level system in regards to a players points. Yes a dude with 70 million SP will rofl stomp the dude with 7million. With damage modifiers maxed out along with general resists (defenses) maxed out, why bother as a new player? Stroke the veterans ego? No thanks!

i.e for every 10 million sp you earn you'd gain a level. Just an idea?๐Ÿ˜—


no...just stop

Agreed...

You should gain a level every 5 Million SP...
SkyFlyer
The Last Hope
#90 - 2015-02-22 11:54:00 UTC
BrundleMeth wrote:
Chapmonious Hunter wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Too much ambiguity and variations in SP's for me and other friends I've talked to regarding pvp and solo fights. There needs to be some bench mark or level system in regards to a players points. Yes a dude with 70 million SP will rofl stomp the dude with 7million. With damage modifiers maxed out along with general resists (defenses) maxed out, why bother as a new player? Stroke the veterans ego? No thanks!

i.e for every 10 million sp you earn you'd gain a level. Just an idea?๐Ÿ˜—


no...just stop

Agreed...

You should gain a level every 5 Million SP...



Lol or else we could just gain levels every 10 kills ahhahahahahh LolLolLolLolLolLolLolLol


Renegade Heart wrote:
SkyFlyer wrote:
PS: Also high sec pvp aint real pvp yo


Are you mad? High Sec PvP is truly elite!


Never mad xD use to be high sec pvp eliteeee just like frigate pvp is elite LolLol
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#91 - 2015-02-22 12:02:20 UTC
Solo pvp is EVE on hardmode. Just a shame that most people are slaves of their own killboard/epeen and are afraid to fight against the odds.

Proof that solo pvp is still alive and kicking ass.

โค๏ธ๏ธ๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’œ
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#92 - 2015-02-22 12:06:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaarous Aldurald
Where have all the gudfites gone, and what's with all the blobs?

Where's the spaceship samurai, who'll fight on even odds?

Isn't there a white knight, who'll duel me at the sun?

On the forums, I wring my hands cause I want a 1v1...

I need some solo! (solo)

Cause I wanna be solo in an MMO!

And I think that I'm leet, I know I can't be beat

But the other side has more ppl tho...

I wanna solo! (solo)

...

Sometime after midnight, out alone in Wicked Creek

Some butthole in a cyno ship, is out there chasing after me

If I try to attack, then he'll just cyno in a black ops fleet

Then my super cool ship will get blapped so quickly

Other people shouldn't have friends, cause that's so unfair to me!

I need some solo!

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#93 - 2015-02-22 12:52:33 UTC
Renegade Heart wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Renegade Heart wrote:
Maybe you are in the wrong space going after the wrong targets or something? I wouldn't expect to see many in FW plexes. The rest of space however has plenty of non-frigate targets that you can take out solo.

I wasn't referring to FW plexes, specifically - although most will be populated by frigates and destroyers. I just tend to find that the only time battleships undock is to deliver the coup de grace when you've already been tackled and maimed by a group of frigates or destroyers. Players fly what they can afford to lose, which generally means the cheapest ships possible.


Go look inside a WH players fly really crazy ships inside those, thinking they can get away with it no doubt.

Low sec is quite risky for solo battleship pilots, I'll give you that, but you still get them there too.

I'll agree with the sentiment that solo pvp is perhaps harder than before for some players, but that is all your own faults! CCP does not force you to blob up. You bring that on yourselves!

But not everyone blobs all the time Smile


CCP are just like the big banks in their thinking.

Everything through the rebalance got more expensive to build (and by association pay for).
Incomes for new players or people with poor opportunities stayed the same.
Incomes for people who were already in an advantaged position got easier.

In the end another top-heavy economy that's falling over and nobody wants to fly shiny stuff because it's too fuckin hard to replace.
Haskuldr
Microtonal Insurection
#94 - 2015-02-22 13:33:21 UTC
SkyFlyer
The Last Hope
#95 - 2015-02-22 14:24:03 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Renegade Heart wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Renegade Heart wrote:
Maybe you are in the wrong space going after the wrong targets or something? I wouldn't expect to see many in FW plexes. The rest of space however has plenty of non-frigate targets that you can take out solo.

I wasn't referring to FW plexes, specifically - although most will be populated by frigates and destroyers. I just tend to find that the only time battleships undock is to deliver the coup de grace when you've already been tackled and maimed by a group of frigates or destroyers. Players fly what they can afford to lose, which generally means the cheapest ships possible.


Go look inside a WH players fly really crazy ships inside those, thinking they can get away with it no doubt.

Low sec is quite risky for solo battleship pilots, I'll give you that, but you still get them there too.

I'll agree with the sentiment that solo pvp is perhaps harder than before for some players, but that is all your own faults! CCP does not force you to blob up. You bring that on yourselves!

But not everyone blobs all the time Smile


CCP are just like the big banks in their thinking.

Everything through the rebalance got more expensive to build (and by association pay for).
Incomes for new players or people with poor opportunities stayed the same.
Incomes for people who were already in an advantaged position got easier.

In the end another top-heavy economy that's falling over and nobody wants to fly shiny stuff because it's too fuckin hard to replace.


Its easy to make isk (billions in weeks) if you are willing to invest time so your post is nothing but a clueless mess:

Are you into Frigate PvP?
Join FW -> Get LP From Fighting + Missions.

Missions in FW lvl 4 are worth a fck ton of Isk/LP and are easy (doable in a Bomber.)

Do you enjoy 0.0 PvP in NPC Space?
Find a Corp that pays for kills ( a lot of them lately) and do Missions.
If you have not run missions before you can easily gain access to Lvl 4's in NPC 0.0.

Do you Enjoy 0.0 PvP in Sov Space?
Find an alliance (there is MILLIONS) and rat in havens
Also **** easy.

Are you a High sec Scrub who is afraid to do something new?
Quit the Game and stop whining.

Literally any absoultely noob can make isk so serious WHAT THE FCK ARE YOU ON ABOUT WHEN YOU SAY "In the end another top-heavy economy that's falling over and nobody wants to fly shiny stuff because it's too fuckin hard to replace" YOU NOOB? Lol
Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#96 - 2015-02-22 14:30:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Renegade Heart
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
In the end another top-heavy economy that's falling over and nobody wants to fly shiny stuff because it's too ****** hard to replace.


So what you are saying is that you are nobody? Well be someone then, because someone is out there right now flying a shiny ship that is not hard to replace Smile
Apoctasy
GentIeman Bastards
Something Really Pretentious
#97 - 2015-02-22 16:26:15 UTC
Solo PVP exists. Try leaving FW space
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#98 - 2015-02-22 18:36:08 UTC
Gankers like to proclaim they are doing all of the solo pvp

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#99 - 2015-02-22 18:52:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
I've found plenty of solo PVP, most of it flying assault frigates, especially the Enyo and the Ishkur. One of my favourite engagements was in Khanid against five T1 frigates that all melted to my Enyo but not without putting up one helluva fight against it. They had a Merlin with tracking disruptor and MASB, three Slashers with neuts (which nearly killed my reps), and a fed navy comet set up to kite with rails and drones. And it was not an easy fight but it was glorious, and more importantly, fun for everyone involved. I was in deep structure by the end of it and my sacrificial drone needed replacing...

For the record, solo PVP isn't impossible. You choose to go solo in a game like this though only to challenge yourself, not to challenge others, so you cannot expect others to fight you on your terms. The only rules they have to abide by are the EULA and TOS, they have absolutely zero obligation to any sense of 'honour' you may 'demand' of them.

On the flip side, flying solo does not necessarily mean one fails to recognise the multiplayer nature of an MMO. If you're doing it right, then the first thing you acknowledge flying solo is that you will encounter gangs and people with friends. Again, the point of flying solo is to challenge yourself, not to challenge others.

โ€œSome capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.โ€ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Thomas Harding
Doomheim
#100 - 2015-02-22 20:21:09 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:

What's the second M in MMO again?

I don't think it stands for Solo.



I don't think it stands for (G)roup playing only either.

I'd say it just means that game is capable of supporting large numbers of players simultaniously.