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Lvl 5 missions - need advice

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Garrett Osinov
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-02-21 10:54:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Garrett Osinov
Guys, I have done all lvl4 missions and tired of them. I am thinking to try lvl5 missions. I can fly Tengu, Gila, Machariel. Any advice about lvl5 ? I am thinking to do them for Brutor Tribe agent.

Maybe you can give me a link to a decent lvl5 missions guides ?
Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#2 - 2015-02-21 13:38:46 UTC
Garrett Osinov wrote:
Guys, I have done all lvl4 missions and tired of them. I am thinking to try lvl5 missions. I can fly Tengu, Gila, Machariel. Any advice about lvl5 ? I am thinking to do them for Brutor Tribe agent.

Maybe you can give me a link to a decent lvl5 missions guides ?



Step 1: Join a low sec mission alliance
Step 2: Carrier


That is all

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2015-02-21 20:22:45 UTC
Maybe you and Boozbaz can try them out together, he's looking for others to do level 5 fleet.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=405615&find=unread



DMC
Boozbaz
Securitech Industries
#4 - 2015-02-21 20:43:21 UTC
I was also interested in doing them for Minmatar faction. I was having difficulty finding people to run these with, so I recently rejoined faction warfare to gain my loyalty points that way instead.
khizy
Allied Investment Bankers Inc
#5 - 2015-02-21 22:07:00 UTC
Hi
I have been running lvl V missions for several months now. I do believe from my experience you could run them solo if you so wished but some of them will be difficult alone. Also the time it will take to do them alone in what is let's face it a fairly hostile environment is also a factor you need to think about. If you are going to do it in a group though it becomes much easier and obviously quicker.
Currently with the use of a Rattlesnake/Golem (mission dependent), Tengu and a command ship with maxed out leadership skilled pilot on board all the missions that have been tried have been fairly easy to complete. There are still several to attempt to complete but as we all know EvE is a slow burning experience for most of us so will endeavour to tackle those missions over the coming months.
So yes.. You 'could' do them solo... But would benefit greatly from having help. Bear in mind the majority of the missions pull in between 60,000 and over 90,000 loyalty points each so by doing them quicker in a group you can soon amass the rewards. In fact have pulled in more LP's in one good evening than was able to manage in nearly a month of regular running lvl IV missions.
Of course the low sec nature of V's can mean a lot of lost time if people are looking for you. But then with patience and organisation you can still achieve a great deal. Where there is risk.....there is often reward.
Hope this helps...I could go into much greater detail in regard to effective running of V's but im sure most people with time served experience will have their own ways of doing so.
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khizy
Allied Investment Bankers Inc
#6 - 2015-02-21 22:13:04 UTC
Boozbaz wrote:
I was also interested in doing them for Minmatar faction. I was having difficulty finding people to run these with, so I recently rejoined faction warfare to gain my loyalty points that way instead.

I think the main problem with people not wanting to run V's with others is the risk of losing ships to those less decent individuals.
CCP has really pushed the 'Join EvE and be horrible to everyone at every opportunity you can' idea too much because from my experience more and more are trying to do exactly that and it's certainly not helping those who genuinely want to work with others but get griefed more often than not.
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Boozbaz
Securitech Industries
#7 - 2015-02-22 03:18:46 UTC
khizy wrote:
Boozbaz wrote:
I was also interested in doing them for Minmatar faction. I was having difficulty finding people to run these with, so I recently rejoined faction warfare to gain my loyalty points that way instead.

I think the main problem with people not wanting to run V's with others is the risk of losing ships to those less decent individuals.
CCP has really pushed the 'Join EvE and be horrible to everyone at every opportunity you can' idea too much because from my experience more and more are trying to do exactly that and it's certainly not helping those who genuinely want to work with others but get griefed more often than not.
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Yeah, trust is the biggest issue.

I' was going to run L5's mainly to get loyalty points to buy fleet issue ships, but since the FW loyalty points store prices things at about half the usual LP cost, I'll just run L4 missions for them and in effect, it shouldn't be much different than running L5's at the end of it all.
Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#8 - 2015-02-22 03:20:52 UTC
Boozbaz wrote:
khizy wrote:
Boozbaz wrote:
I was also interested in doing them for Minmatar faction. I was having difficulty finding people to run these with, so I recently rejoined faction warfare to gain my loyalty points that way instead.

I think the main problem with people not wanting to run V's with others is the risk of losing ships to those less decent individuals.
CCP has really pushed the 'Join EvE and be horrible to everyone at every opportunity you can' idea too much because from my experience more and more are trying to do exactly that and it's certainly not helping those who genuinely want to work with others but get griefed more often than not.
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Yeah, trust is the biggest issue.

I' was going to run L5's mainly to get loyalty points to buy fleet issue ships, but since the FW loyalty points store prices things at about half the usual LP cost, I'll just run L4 missions for them and in effect, it shouldn't be much different than running L5's at the end of it all.



FW is a nice way to go... use a 20mil fit bomber to run the missions, little risk. I won't do it because of the opposing faction hit but I have always thought of using yet another alt to get those shinny ships :)

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.

Boozbaz
Securitech Industries
#9 - 2015-02-22 05:12:37 UTC
Yeah the faction hit was the main disincentive for me to do it for the longest time. This will be my first time letting my standings drop with Amarr/Caldari but I'm okay with it now.
Mr Mac
Dark Goliath
#10 - 2015-02-22 06:55:15 UTC
I did lvl 5 mission once for fun in dominix solo. I dont remember name of mission which i killed shadow serpentis battleship with around 14 mil bounty.

About carrier. In mission detail says carrier cant use gate. Seems lvl 5 missions designed for fleet
adriaans
Ankaa.
Nair Al-Zaurak
#11 - 2015-02-22 09:27:57 UTC
Mr Mac wrote:
I did lvl 5 mission once for fun in dominix solo. I dont remember name of mission which i killed shadow serpentis battleship with around 14 mil bounty.

About carrier. In mission detail says carrier cant use gate. Seems lvl 5 missions designed for fleet


Not all of them are gated.

----True oldschool solo pvp'er---- My latest vid: Insanity IV

ficr
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2015-02-22 13:50:42 UTC
Garrett Osinov wrote:
Guys, I have done all lvl4 missions and tired of them. I am thinking to try lvl5 missions. I can fly Tengu, Gila, Machariel. Any advice about lvl5 ? I am thinking to do them for Brutor Tribe agent.

Maybe you can give me a link to a decent lvl5 missions guides ?


Maybe in about a month since I'm a new player. Would training a leadership skill in the mean time be useful?
Boozbaz
Securitech Industries
#13 - 2015-02-22 19:06:50 UTC
ficr wrote:
Garrett Osinov wrote:
Guys, I have done all lvl4 missions and tired of them. I am thinking to try lvl5 missions. I can fly Tengu, Gila, Machariel. Any advice about lvl5 ? I am thinking to do them for Brutor Tribe agent.

Maybe you can give me a link to a decent lvl5 missions guides ?


Maybe in about a month since I'm a new player. Would training a leadership skill in the mean time be useful?


Not as useful as training for logistics (remote repairs) or a battleship.
ficr
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2015-02-22 19:31:30 UTC
Boozbaz wrote:
ficr wrote:
Garrett Osinov wrote:
Guys, I have done all lvl4 missions and tired of them. I am thinking to try lvl5 missions. I can fly Tengu, Gila, Machariel. Any advice about lvl5 ? I am thinking to do them for Brutor Tribe agent.

Maybe you can give me a link to a decent lvl5 missions guides ?


Maybe in about a month since I'm a new player. Would training a leadership skill in the mean time be useful?


Not as useful as training for logistics (remote repairs) or a battleship.


Good to know that skills I've already trained for my playstyle (Remote Structure, Remote Hull, Remote Shield) will be useful although I'm still flying frigates.
Boozbaz
Securitech Industries
#15 - 2015-02-22 20:03:34 UTC
ficr wrote:
Boozbaz wrote:
ficr wrote:
Garrett Osinov wrote:
Guys, I have done all lvl4 missions and tired of them. I am thinking to try lvl5 missions. I can fly Tengu, Gila, Machariel. Any advice about lvl5 ? I am thinking to do them for Brutor Tribe agent.

Maybe you can give me a link to a decent lvl5 missions guides ?


Maybe in about a month since I'm a new player. Would training a leadership skill in the mean time be useful?


Not as useful as training for logistics (remote repairs) or a battleship.


Good to know that skills I've already trained for my playstyle (Remote Structure, Remote Hull, Remote Shield) will be useful although I'm still flying frigates.


If you can do both shield and armor, you'll be golden to get into tons of fleets.
Bahnny
Le Fancy
Strictly Unprofessional
#16 - 2015-02-22 21:45:40 UTC
Garrett Osinov wrote:
Guys, I have done all lvl4 missions and tired of them. I am thinking to try lvl5 missions. I can fly Tengu, Gila, Machariel. Any advice about lvl5 ? I am thinking to do them for Brutor Tribe agent.

Maybe you can give me a link to a decent lvl5 missions guides ?


you can use eve-missions for guides.

The problem is your going to want 2-3k hps tank that is capless due to the neutralizers in some of the missions.

There's also a few missions that have 10+ ships webbing/scrambling you. So if someone jumps into local and scans you out you lose a few bil isk.

As someone else suggested, join a pirate group in the nearby space and try to do them that way with a carrier or something silly. It's too much a pain otherwise.
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#17 - 2015-02-23 12:49:22 UTC
I'm amazed he hasn't posted yet but look up a guy by the name of Fango Mango.

Not today spaghetti.

Boozbaz
Securitech Industries
#18 - 2015-02-23 14:19:26 UTC
Thanks for heads up, Sexy Cakes ;)
ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#19 - 2015-02-23 17:17:56 UTC
With the risk, why wouldn't you just run FW missions instead? I get doing it just to like get the accomplishment after all I missioned in nullsec for a long time and it isn't really as profitable as FW when you can do FW missions in groups properly.

The biggest thing I would say as advice is to watch local, not just Dscan. If you give me enough time in local, cloaked or Dscan immune I can get your exact location without probes....it is just a matter of figuring out your exact range and angle from a few points. I am terrible at probing but even I can get a ship proved down in seconds of I know exactly where to put my probes.

All that being said, please do l5 missions, a properly fit group can be a real challenge to fight since it is easy enough to fit a point and bring logi and then you are basically PVP fits. I think more needs to happen in Minmatar low sec because that is where I love doing pve and pvp.
Garrett Osinov
Doomheim
#20 - 2015-02-24 09:23:01 UTC
ValentinaDLM wrote:
With the risk, why wouldn't you just run FW missions instead? I get doing it just to like get the accomplishment after all I missioned in nullsec for a long time and it isn't really as profitable as FW when you can do FW missions in groups properly.

The biggest thing I would say as advice is to watch local, not just Dscan. If you give me enough time in local, cloaked or Dscan immune I can get your exact location without probes....it is just a matter of figuring out your exact range and angle from a few points. I am terrible at probing but even I can get a ship proved down in seconds of I know exactly where to put my probes.

All that being said, please do l5 missions, a properly fit group can be a real challenge to fight since it is easy enough to fit a point and bring logi and then you are basically PVP fits. I think more needs to happen in Minmatar low sec because that is where I love doing pve and pvp.


Thb I don't know much about FW (as far as I heard you get a serious faction standing loss, if it is right, then this isn't an option). I thought that the logical step from Lvl4 is Lvl5.
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