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Reduced 0.5 Systems? Since When?
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Ikshuki
Awoken Disintegration Fleet
#1 - 2015-02-21 12:16:15 UTC
I haven't played eve for at least a year of skilling, and i was hopping 22 jumps away in systems that normally has 6 0.5 systems in the jump points, but I just noticed all my warp points are all green, mostly 0.8-0.6 systems. So, I bring up the high sec map, and there are way less 0.5 systems now. What they do remove systems or upped the security in suicide systems?
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#2 - 2015-02-21 12:22:45 UTC
Ikshuki wrote:
I haven't played eve for at least a year of skilling, and i was hopping 22 jumps away in systems that normally has 6 0.5 systems in the jump points, but I just noticed all my warp points are all green, mostly 0.8-0.6 systems. So, I bring up the high sec map, and there are way less 0.5 systems now. What they do remove systems or upped the security in suicide systems?

Since when? Since never.

Looks like you plotted a different course.
Ikshuki
Awoken Disintegration Fleet
#3 - 2015-02-21 13:01:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Ikshuki
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:
Ikshuki wrote:
I haven't played eve for at least a year of skilling, and i was hopping 22 jumps away in systems that normally has 6 0.5 systems in the jump points, but I just noticed all my warp points are all green, mostly 0.8-0.6 systems. So, I bring up the high sec map, and there are way less 0.5 systems now. What they do remove systems or upped the security in suicide systems?

Since when? Since never.

Looks like you plotted a different course.
nope, same 22 system jumps, and the route i go to only has 1 route, if i change it, it converts to 105 jumps, and like i said, there are a lot of missing 0.5 systems in the star map
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#4 - 2015-02-21 13:08:35 UTC
Ikshuki wrote:
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:
Ikshuki wrote:
I haven't played eve for at least a year of skilling, and i was hopping 22 jumps away in systems that normally has 6 0.5 systems in the jump points, but I just noticed all my warp points are all green, mostly 0.8-0.6 systems. So, I bring up the high sec map, and there are way less 0.5 systems now. What they do remove systems or upped the security in suicide systems?

Since when? Since never.

Looks like you plotted a different course.
nope, same 22 system jumps, and the route i go to only has 1 route, if i change it, it converts to 105 jumps, and like i said, there are a lot of missing 0.5 systems in the star map

If it's the same route, and you apparently already have an idea of what systems you pass through, name one system that has changed.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-02-21 15:13:37 UTC
How many 0.5 systems have changed?


0, none, absolutely nothing...




Is it likely your route is different or you make wrong assumptions on stuff from over a year ago (you have a great memory if you can remember a jump route and all the sec levels the systems had from a year ago)?

Yes, very likely it is a clear case of "operator error".

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Silverdaddy
Ourapheh Holdings
#6 - 2015-02-21 15:14:08 UTC
AFAIK, no systems have had their sec status changed.

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ACESsiggy
Deaths Consortium
#7 - 2015-02-21 15:15:32 UTC
Major props man if you remember specific routes and connected systems. Isn't there external resources for efficient routes and connected systems? surely someone else would have noticed any changes.

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Boozbaz
Securitech Industries
#8 - 2015-02-21 16:00:32 UTC
Yeah man back in the Augustus patch in 2014 they thought the rewards for doing missions in 0.5 systems were being scaled too high, so they nerfed them by by increasing the security status and thereby diminishing the LP/ISK rewards for running missions there.
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#9 - 2015-02-21 16:18:20 UTC
Boozbaz wrote:
Yeah man back in the Augustus patch in 2014 they thought the rewards for doing missions in 0.5 systems were being scaled too high, so they nerfed them by by increasing the security status and thereby diminishing the LP/ISK rewards for running missions there.


What are you babbling about and what is this Augustus patch?

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#10 - 2015-02-21 16:22:19 UTC
no system has ever had sec level change. you;d of seen a huge backlash on the forms if that happened

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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#11 - 2015-02-21 17:17:28 UTC
What I suspect happened is this: you got a safer route due to some gate changes, over time, there have been a few. Even a single gate-jump added-removed can drastically alter some routes.

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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-02-21 17:21:56 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
no system has ever had sec level change. you;d of seen a huge backlash on the forms if that happened

Untrue, there were some systems that did, but that was AGES ago.. For sure nothing has changed in the past year.
Serene Repose
#13 - 2015-02-21 17:31:23 UTC
There was this huge shred in the time/space continuum. Quite a few systems fell through it before emergency crews could get a patch on it! *heavy sigh* Now we just recall fondly all the stations and stars that fell through the fault. Sad

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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#14 - 2015-02-21 17:51:45 UTC
Sniper Smith wrote:
DaReaper wrote:
no system has ever had sec level change. you;d of seen a huge backlash on the forms if that happened

Untrue, there were some systems that did, but that was AGES ago.. For sure nothing has changed in the past year.


Wasn't that in Caldari space? For the faction war Militia, because Caldari had to few lower sec systems (so sec had to go down, not up)

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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-02-21 18:24:42 UTC
Jandice Ymladris wrote:
Sniper Smith wrote:
DaReaper wrote:
no system has ever had sec level change. you;d of seen a huge backlash on the forms if that happened

Untrue, there were some systems that did, but that was AGES ago.. For sure nothing has changed in the past year.


Wasn't that in Caldari space? For the faction war Militia, because Caldari had to few lower sec systems (so sec had to go down, not up)

I don't remember exactly.. I just know there were a handful of low/high systems that changed. But ya, many many years ago.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#16 - 2015-02-21 20:27:48 UTC
Jandice Ymladris wrote:
What I suspect happened is this: you got a safer route due to some gate changes, over time, there have been a few. Even a single gate-jump added-removed can drastically alter some routes.



I'm wondering if the OP has a system listed as "to avoid" that's throwing the course plot entirely off.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2015-02-21 21:16:42 UTC
Jandice Ymladris wrote:
What I suspect happened is this: you got a safer route due to some gate changes, over time, there have been a few. Even a single gate-jump added-removed can drastically alter some routes.


This most likely.


There have been a couple of gate connection fixes in the recent past, so that likely is the reason if it is true.

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The Troll Bridge
#18 - 2015-02-21 22:13:36 UTC
Riiiiight.






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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-02-21 22:34:53 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Jandice Ymladris wrote:
What I suspect happened is this: you got a safer route due to some gate changes, over time, there have been a few. Even a single gate-jump added-removed can drastically alter some routes.



I'm wondering if the OP has a system listed as "to avoid" that's throwing the course plot entirely off.

I've found CCP liked to randomly add Jita to the avoid list.. I've removed it a few times since I started playing lol


Now the other thing it can be is just AP doesn't always make the same route. I've had times where 2 alts, same spot, no avoid systems, going to the same place, get different routes.. same number of jumps, but different.. And any route that has Yulai in it for example, sometimes it'll be there, sometimes it won't, even going between the same systems.. It's truly odd.. Only annoying when I'm having more than one alt move at once.
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2015-02-21 22:58:43 UTC
Boozbaz wrote:
Yeah man back in the Augustus patch in 2014 they thought the rewards for doing missions in 0.5 systems were being scaled too high, so they nerfed them by by increasing the security status and thereby diminishing the LP/ISK rewards for running missions there.


I remember that patch. I was able to fluke in a moon mining drill because of it. Made billions in high sec moon mats before they shut it down.
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