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Hello boys and girls! Well, following my original loan you can read about it http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1564993

It was great success! and here are some of the highlights

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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3446/3202502460_d54c0e2e21.jpg


So you can see I have great references It was a good result. I did not yet sell everything but made a profit and when the remainder sells it will be about double the original investment in total. I did use some existing stock as well so if I factor that in as costs then it is a bit less but still quite pleased.

I am now thinking about where to go next. In the meantime I would like to get more trading done and specifically want to do some more regional trading.

I have not yet worked out on the calcumatron the exact values but I have the following collateral currently free to be set aside

SHIPS:
1 x T2 fit Hulk
1 x Maelstrom which has T2 modules and T1 artillery guns but could also come with some named variants instead
1 x Charon*

BPOS (100-200 in total):
Large list of T2 ship component BPOs which are all researched to ME10/PE10 zero waste
Large list of module BPOs (shields, armor, hull, energy all T1) also well researched

Gummy Bears:
Some spare ones might be found behind the sofa!



I am happy to provide a big list of things but I'll have to put those online somewhere later.


* I also have the Charon available but I would really like to keep that this time because I want to use it for some inter regional items. I can use a transport ship and contract for things that don't fit but it just means more time and money spent.

Including the Charon the total available collateral this time is maybe a bit over 2bn. Later this week I will sit down and check it all properly. Without the Charon I think the rough estimate is about 1.5bn maybe a bit less.



Phew! I am tired from typing and thinking about this too much So that is what is potentially available! Now I would really ideally like one or two people for this because there are a lot of BPOs involved. Over 100! Neatly folded and tucked away in a handful containers!

I would really like a lower interest rate 5% I think is fair? Because this time I want to be doing high sec trading and inter regional trading so the margins won't be so good and I won't be using stock from before.

The amount I have in mind is 2bn. Anyways I am not going ahead with this yet because I want to see what suggestions and offers can be made. In the end I might not even do it but if I do it will probably be starting next week because I am very busy this week and this weekend.


Now I am going to sit down because I'm pooped from all this typing and calcumatroning!

Hello there little girl

Based on previous experience, I would be happy to be one or more of your future investors in your endevours.

I would be happy to loan you up to the full amount your asking for, if I can hold collateral.

However, I think the interest rate is too low. At 75% collateral, I would be willing to offer you a loan at 8%, with a full (i.e. 110% min9 collateralization 6% would be ok.

(After all I need to make some money )

Let me know what you think

Cheers,

LOL Tom looking at your avatar and reading that first line... it sounded pretty bad haha!

Hi again,

The reason for the increased interest is that the size of the bond now makes the investment a more risky one as well.

I would like to offer you a third option as well.

If you widh to keep the Charon for transporting stuff, I could offer you a 2 Bill loan using only 50% collateral at 10% interest.

That would mean collateral is the ships (except the Charon) and the BPOs.

Let me know again what you think.

@ Brollox: Yes, I would be fine with splitting the loan.

Hi uncie Tom and ahm Brollox Oh my! So many options! Well, the reason I am so attached to the Charon is because I am not a pure station trader. I'm used to using it for freight/building and some inter region trading, in between other less trading activities. I suppose trading artillery rounds could still be considered trading though. Live trading

I will use these funds and my own money to do more station trading but also some more region trading if it isn't working out so well. But hopefully it will! Hmmm decisions decision! I wasn't expecting an uncollateralized offer if I take that one it is really high interest rate considering I would set myself a minimum 15% margin for trades. But it means I keep a larger BPO collection to produce from

The 50/50 split one at 10% seems to be the best deal. I'm not keen on not having less options! I will hopefully finish my little girl errands this weekend and look to start on Monday if not Tuesday and then we can decide how to split the loot! I mean the collateral

Hey guys! I am moving all the collateral into one location for ease of contracting. They are only a few jumps out from Jita in high sec. Please let me know how you want to split it then I can sort out contracts so it will be 2bn for 10% overall right? With 50/50 collateral between Tom and Bro and I keep the teddy bear Charon

You know, I'm still suspicious of the milkshake Tom left spilled on the bridge roof. I hope these ships are given back nice and clean and with the fluffy dice still attached!

Yep count me in on the same terms if Tom wants the ships I am happy to thumb through the BPO's whilst looking at my 'gentlemans art' collection, so I will appolagise in advance if some are stuck together when I return them

Hiya! Collateral contracts are up. It isn't exact 50/50 but it's close enough. You two can always mud wrestle to determine who should have got the slightly bigger amount haha Actually on second thoughts hmmm maybe people would pay to watch that??

Contract accepted --> ISK sent.

GLHF - I will make my mark on the shiny new ships (but of course clean it up afterwards)