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Hrothgar Nilsson
#141 - 2015-02-17 22:16:00 UTC
Out of curiosity, what does CODE have planned for those bot aspirant players who shield themselves in NPC corps and multibox protection alongside their multiboxed mining fleets?

I enter exhibit A: http://i.imgur.com/cYrVD3w.jpg - Halaima, 2 groups of multiboxers, one with 12 accounts active and the other with 10. With 100 drones out for protection.

They are sucking the Halaima ice field bone dry every single day.

I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe...

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion...
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#142 - 2015-02-17 22:30:04 UTC
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
Out of curiosity, what does CODE have planned for those bot aspirant players who shield themselves in NPC corps and multibox protection alongside their multiboxed mining fleets?

I enter exhibit A: http://i.imgur.com/cYrVD3w.jpg - Halaima, 2 groups of multiboxers, one with 12 accounts active and the other with 10. With 100 drones out for protection.

They are sucking the Halaima ice field bone dry every single day.



If you feel we're taking too long, deal with it yourself.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Hrothgar Nilsson
#143 - 2015-02-17 23:02:12 UTC
It wasn't a question about how long it's going to take. It was a question about if anything is planned to be done at all.

It would seem that after having gone after the low-hanging fruit, the result has primarily benefited those who are willing to engage in even more egregious bot-aspirant behavior that is more difficult to root out.

I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe...

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion...
Elizabet Forgrave
Spectre Fleet Ltd.
Spectre Fleet Alliance
#144 - 2015-02-17 23:28:09 UTC
I'm fighting code in my own way. As of today, I've contacted over 1000 miners to give advice on how to fit, how to avoid gankers and how to maximise efficiency all the while. I know code will claim that's a victory for them as they claim everything is but they want people to kill and I'm aiming to reduce their potential target numbers. Whatever though if miners can mine though and worry much less about being ganked, thats definitely a victory for miners and that's all I care about.
Concord Guy's Cousin
Doomheim
#145 - 2015-02-18 00:18:22 UTC
Elizabet Forgrave wrote:
I'm fighting code in my own way. As of today, I've contacted over 1000 miners to give advice on how to fit, how to avoid gankers and how to maximise efficiency all the while.
For the most part you'll be ignored, good effort though.

Quote:
I know code will claim that's a victory for them as they claim everything is but they want people to kill and I'm aiming to reduce their potential target numbers. Whatever though if miners can mine though and worry much less about being ganked, thats definitely a victory for miners and that's all I care about.
It's a win for both of you if even 10% of the miners you've contacted heed your advice.

ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#146 - 2015-02-18 03:07:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Leto Thule
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
Out of curiosity, what does CODE have planned for those bot aspirant players who shield themselves in NPC corps and multibox protection alongside their multiboxed mining fleets?

I enter exhibit A: http://i.imgur.com/cYrVD3w.jpg - Halaima, 2 groups of multiboxers, one with 12 accounts active and the other with 10. With 100 drones out for protection.

They are sucking the Halaima ice field bone dry every single day.



Be the change you want to see. - Psychotic Monk

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Hrothgar Nilsson
#147 - 2015-02-18 05:54:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Hrothgar Nilsson
Leto Thule wrote:
Be the change you want to see. - Psychotic Monk

Who was asking for change? I'm merely pointing to a (perhaps unintended) consequence of CODE strategy.

I'm not against what you do. I'm not a miner. I went to Halaima for the lulz on an alt wanting to whore in on some miner ganks that I expected would be happening non-stop based on what I've read. I was rather surprised by what I saw in actuality.

Of the last 2500 exhumer kills CODE has racked up, 2% (50) have been Skiffs. Smart botters have adapted. Your Mecca (Halaima) has been overtaken by smarter botters who are reaping 100% of its ice, day in, day out with total impunity.

I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe...

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion...
Elizabet Forgrave
Spectre Fleet Ltd.
Spectre Fleet Alliance
#148 - 2015-02-18 07:57:53 UTC
Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
Elizabet Forgrave wrote:
I'm fighting code in my own way. As of today, I've contacted over 1000 miners to give advice on how to fit, how to avoid gankers and how to maximise efficiency all the while.
For the most part you'll be ignored, good effort though.
You'd be surprised. I spend about half an hour every morning just reading and responding to mails just saying thanks, asking for further advice or clarification. Honestly I've been quite surprised at how receptive players are to advice. It's probably a bit tougher if you've just blown up their ship and are telling them to pay you and all will be well Big smile

Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
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I know code will claim that's a victory for them as they claim everything is but they want people to kill and I'm aiming to reduce their potential target numbers. Whatever though if miners can mine though and worry much less about being ganked, thats definitely a victory for miners and that's all I care about.
It's a win for both of you if even 10% of the miners you've contacted heed your advice.
it's gonna be a tough one to measure though for sure.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#149 - 2015-02-18 08:09:29 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Be the change you want to see. - Psychotic Monk
Kill them all, then kill them again - PM Pirate

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
Keikira Borsch
Perkone
Caldari State
#150 - 2015-02-18 12:15:17 UTC
Chocolate Mooses wrote:
Keikira Borsch wrote:
Lol I put a 10mil bounty on this guy once, several months ago. Killed my autopilot shuttle for being 'unauthorised mining equipment', and demanded 10mil for a permit, which I immediately put on his head for irony's sake. May have been his first bounty ever. Either way, I have since gotten over 200 'a bounty has been claimed' notifications, as people put more bounties on him and he dies incessantly.

He gave me a good laugh, will be missed. Well, not really. My notifications will hopefully be clear from now on, at least.


The adorable part is that you seem to actually think that your "bounty" or anyone else's "bounty" on him have anything to do with him losing ships. #ProTip: It does not.

But hey, as long as it makes you feel good.


Well, he is one of the highest ranked players in the game... in losing ships.

Then again, he is top rank in isk destroyed, so I can't really say anything.

I don't really give a damn. I was once dumb and autopiloted through hisec and had a laugh.

On a sidenote, if loyalanon is reading - throw me an evemail if you ever come down to Christchurch. Not too many eve players down here, as far as I know.

Raki-tahutahu ki ruka

Ataata i te toto ki te papa

e rere atu nā ki te whenua
Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#151 - 2015-02-20 11:04:30 UTC
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
Out of curiosity, what does CODE have planned for those bot aspirant players who shield themselves in NPC corps and multibox protection alongside their multiboxed mining fleets?

I enter exhibit A: http://i.imgur.com/cYrVD3w.jpg - Halaima, 2 groups of multiboxers, one with 12 accounts active and the other with 10. With 100 drones out for protection.

They are sucking the Halaima ice field bone dry every single day.


Nothing at all. They're too busy killing noobs in Ventures.

A signature :o
Black Pedro
Mine.
#152 - 2015-02-20 11:16:17 UTC
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
Out of curiosity, what does CODE have planned for those bot aspirant players who shield themselves in NPC corps and multibox protection alongside their multiboxed mining fleets?

I enter exhibit A: http://i.imgur.com/cYrVD3w.jpg - Halaima, 2 groups of multiboxers, one with 12 accounts active and the other with 10. With 100 drones out for protection.

They are sucking the Halaima ice field bone dry every single day.


Nothing at all. They're too busy killing noobs in Ventures.

Come on guys, be the change that you want. If you don't like those bot-aspirants mining your ice then do something about them!

Impose your will on New Eden. Get some bumpers, start ganking, gather a bigger fleet of miners to out-compete them - do anything. Don't just throw your hands up and wish for someone else to fix your problems. Whining in the forums all defeatist-like for someone else to do it isn't going to get you far in this game.

Find some self-respect and play the game!

The 8 Golden Rules of Eve

Why Do They Gank?
Hrothgar Nilsson
#153 - 2015-02-20 16:11:08 UTC
Black Pedro wrote:
Come on guys, be the change that you want. If you don't like those bot-aspirants mining your ice then do something about them!

Impose your will on New Eden. Get some bumpers, start ganking, gather a bigger fleet of miners to out-compete them - do anything. Don't just throw your hands up and wish for someone else to fix your problems. Whining in the forums all defeatist-like for someone else to do it isn't going to get you far in this game.

Find some self-respect and play the game!

It wasn't a whine, it's not my ice, and I'm not asking YOU to do anything. Merely pointing out a couple of observations.

I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe...

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion...
Thius Taxus Thellere
Blueprint Mania
#154 - 2015-02-20 16:26:50 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Thius Taxus Thellere wrote:


I would say YOU are the won who lost Eve. By making a computer game so personal. No one will miss you when you leave.


Hardly personal...savoring sweet victory over bad people is more of an entertaining hobby for me.


Fantastic backtrack
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#155 - 2015-02-20 18:11:17 UTC
Black Pedro wrote:
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
Out of curiosity, what does CODE have planned for those bot aspirant players who shield themselves in NPC corps and multibox protection alongside their multiboxed mining fleets?

I enter exhibit A: http://i.imgur.com/cYrVD3w.jpg - Halaima, 2 groups of multiboxers, one with 12 accounts active and the other with 10. With 100 drones out for protection.

They are sucking the Halaima ice field bone dry every single day.


Nothing at all. They're too busy killing noobs in Ventures.

Come on guys, be the change that you want. If you don't like those bot-aspirants mining your ice then do something about them!

Impose your will on New Eden. Get some bumpers, start ganking, gather a bigger fleet of miners to out-compete them - do anything. Don't just throw your hands up and wish for someone else to fix your problems. Whining in the forums all defeatist-like for someone else to do it isn't going to get you far in this game.

Find some self-respect and play the game!



self-respect?
By dawdling in hiscec and anoy the miners? You wanna impose you go lo-null. Hisec belongs to Concord. Concord doesnt care much about citizens, but kill gankers all the time. Impression = NULL
"bot-aspirant" is a codie buzzword, there is nothing like that.

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#156 - 2015-02-20 19:01:04 UTC
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
They're too busy killing noobs in Ventures.


Noobs deserve whatever happens to them, regardless of what ship they're flying.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#157 - 2015-02-20 20:08:56 UTC
La Rynx wrote:
Black Pedro wrote:
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
Out of curiosity, what does CODE have planned for those bot aspirant players who shield themselves in NPC corps and multibox protection alongside their multiboxed mining fleets?

I enter exhibit A: http://i.imgur.com/cYrVD3w.jpg - Halaima, 2 groups of multiboxers, one with 12 accounts active and the other with 10. With 100 drones out for protection.

They are sucking the Halaima ice field bone dry every single day.


Nothing at all. They're too busy killing noobs in Ventures.

Come on guys, be the change that you want. If you don't like those bot-aspirants mining your ice then do something about them!

Impose your will on New Eden. Get some bumpers, start ganking, gather a bigger fleet of miners to out-compete them - do anything. Don't just throw your hands up and wish for someone else to fix your problems. Whining in the forums all defeatist-like for someone else to do it isn't going to get you far in this game.

Find some self-respect and play the game!



self-respect?
By dawdling in hiscec and anoy the miners? You wanna impose you go lo-null. Hisec belongs to Concord. Concord doesnt care much about citizens, but kill gankers all the time. Impression = NULL
"bot-aspirant" is a codie buzzword, there is nothing like that.


Im certain Code is having more fun ganking, than the miners are at mining or being ganked.

But all you seem to be doing is telling code what to do, without actually doing anything about it. You want Code to impose their will in low-null, then actually do something about it. Dont sit here in the forums, crying and whining.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#158 - 2015-02-20 20:27:18 UTC
I have removed a rule breaking post and the one quoting it.

The Rules:
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.

Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.

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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#159 - 2015-02-20 21:23:30 UTC
Quick, to the Ripardmobile!

Would you like to know more?
Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
Something Really Pretentious
#160 - 2015-02-20 22:07:07 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
between this, Feyd going to null, and Cannibal Kane mostly going inactive, highsec griefing may be over. Veers always wins!

http://www.minerbumping.com/2015/02/highsec-miner-grab-bag-72.html?showComment=1423419940758#c5043912067282719038

(08.02.2015 16:25:07) redacted: Hello everyone,

This is a mail regarding my departure from Eve.

Its been a good 2 years with the New Order of High Sec/Code Alliance and I have come to make alot of good friends/enemies in this game.

I would like to thank everyone for there support and in the help in us achieving some great things while being a part of the New Order.

For me though it is time for me to concentrate on real life and my family hence why I am leaving Eve.

I would like to say a big shout out to John E Normus and Capt Starfox for always being around when we were going through spaceship dramas and the countless hours/days we spent pvping miners.

To The Conference Elite pilots thankyou for making TCE one of the greatest corps in all of eve and I am sure you will still carry the banner for months to come.

I am incredibly proud of what we have all achieved in Eve, and for helping me shove carebear tears up CCP's xxxxx whenever they tried to nerf our playstyle.

It has been an amazing journey through friendships, carebear tears, ts rage, milestones etc but for me real life comes first.

I can be reached on redacted if anyone wants to catch up at anytime, Also please feel free to mail me if any of you come to New Zealand.

To our Saviour James 315, keep rocking on, I will forever be grateful in your belief in me, and in your help that you have given me throughout the last year and a half, it has truly been a pleasure.

To someone in goons can you please pass this message onto all of Mini-luv.

Thankyou all o/

loyalanon

PS - I will occassionally jump on however I wont be on everyday/week etc.


You keep on believing that Veers. The world of "griefing" as you call it, is alive and well and was not or will never be dependent on a few players. You are living in lala land if you think it is over because a few players have moved or stopped playing. You are far too new of a player to make that judgement and have not been around long enough to know it doesn't just "go away". I do, however, find comedy in the fact you think you know. At least you hold some value to the community. With all due respect (and that's not much), you know far too little to make judgement calls such as this. Veers can never win because Veers will never play...you don't PvP..you don't even interact outside of forum wariorism...so win you say? It's laughable...and I thank you for the laugh. Woooot..Veers won the red x crusade. Roll

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..