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Where has all the solo PvP gone?
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Glathull
Warlock Assassins
#21 - 2015-02-20 14:45:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Glathull
Sibyyl wrote:

What's the second M in MMO again?

I don't think it stands for Solo.



I thought it stood for masturbat1on. And that's solo by definition.

They call it sex when it's multiplayer. At least, I think that's how it works.

I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#22 - 2015-02-20 14:53:31 UTC
LordSpook Anpumesses wrote:
A few of you know me, most prolly dont, I have lived in Placid and Black Rise (Gal/Cal FW space) for over 2 years now and the last few months there has been a major decline in solo fighting, compared to what it use to be its practically non-exsistant. Its become more of a blob fest of null sec style. Now some time last year some there was a lot of whining and crying about cloaky warp stabbed ships and how they should be banned some how and make the plex rats respawn like crack addicts to encourage more solo pvp, will how did that work out for ya? most of you prolly arent even in low anymore prataking in solo pvp are ya? (most prolly werent even out here to begain with) at the time people that lived out here said it was a bad idea with loads of reasons why and just about all of them came true didnt they?

I for one would like to see the glory days of low sec fighting return but it means kill board ***** mite have to get alittle butthurt once in awhile cause there may be a player thats doesnt want to get insta popped to their 3 times boosted deadspace fit whatever ship and just simply cloaks or warps off. OOORRRRR we continue to slowly bleed low sec solo players and pretty much become just another null sec region with out the sav.

I really love saying this in game and RL but WE TOLD YOU SO! :P

yes half the words are prolly misspelled but i dont care,
o7
-LrdSpk


EVE launched on May 3, 2003. Solo pvp died on May 4, 2003. You must not have read the 12 year old memo yet.
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#23 - 2015-02-20 14:53:59 UTC
Glathull wrote:
Sibyyl wrote:

What's the second M in MMO again?

I don't think it stands for Solo.



I thought it stood for masturbat1on. And that's solo by definition.

They call it sex when it's multiplayer. At least, I think that's how it works.


Suddenly it all makes sense why EVE is so full of jerkoffs.
Toriessian
Helion Production Labs
Independent Operators Consortium
#24 - 2015-02-20 15:25:06 UTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki4VhqUWr0A

Solo seems fine to me. You just have to be ballsy.


Every day I'm wafflin!
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#25 - 2015-02-20 15:28:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Toriessian wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki4VhqUWr0A

Solo seems fine to me. You just have to be ballsy.




+1

Marlona Sky is soloing in a freaking INDUSTRIAL. This demonstrates the fact that the 'Death of Solo PVP' is actually caused by lazy people being un-creative and then blaming the game for their personal failing, not some problem with the game.
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
#26 - 2015-02-20 15:29:58 UTC
I solo... well i try to sometimes. I am getting better in that i don't just die in a blue ball of death every second gate. But it is well known that getting a good solo fight is bloody hard work and takes a lot of lost ships.

Oh and i do real solo. No links. No scouts. Just me, Leroy and the happy drug fairy... (seriously just one time i want no neg effects! )

AKA the scientist.

Death and Glory!

Well fun is also good.
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#27 - 2015-02-20 15:57:25 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:

What's the second M in MMO again?

I don't think it stands for Solo.



If you are fighting another player, it is not a solo operation. It takes two to tango.

Primary Test Subject • SmackTalker Elite
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#28 - 2015-02-20 18:17:30 UTC
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Too much ambiguity and variations in SP's for me and other friends I've talked to regarding pvp and solo fights. There needs to be some bench mark or level system in regards to a players points. Yes a dude with 70 million SP will rofl stomp the dude with 7million.

If the dude with 70 mil has industry and science skills and just recently skilled up his cruiser he can easily be the one roflstomped.
A character with 5 million SPs focussed in the ship he's flying will have a more than even chance against a character who has 100 million, only 4 million of which are applicable to the ship they're in.
A character with 5 million SPs and the Player skills to maximise their ship will make a 50 mil SP "combat specialist" who doesn't into a comedy kill-mail.

You will lose ships as you're learning - so choose cheap ships and lose them. Lose ten or so and you'll probably be getting close fights, lose twenty and you'll be winning some of them - even if you're opponent is ten years old.
Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#29 - 2015-02-20 18:22:11 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:

What's the second M in MMO again?

I don't think it stands for Solo.



A solo player can beat a whole corp. Indeed solo players have been known to defeat multiple corps at once!

I'm guessing multiple players are involved?
Baku Bako
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2015-02-20 18:28:33 UTC
I don't mind blobs, you just need to be out of their way. They rarely chase me from safe to safe.

MildewWolf, are you a man with breasts?
P3ps1 Max
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2015-02-20 18:45:32 UTC
Jacob Holland wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Too much ambiguity and variations in SP's for me and other friends I've talked to regarding pvp and solo fights. There needs to be some bench mark or level system in regards to a players points. Yes a dude with 70 million SP will rofl stomp the dude with 7million.

If the dude with 70 mil has industry and science skills and just recently skilled up his cruiser he can easily be the one roflstomped.
A character with 5 million SPs focussed in the ship he's flying will have a more than even chance against a character who has 100 million, only 4 million of which are applicable to the ship they're in.
A character with 5 million SPs and the Player skills to maximise their ship will make a 50 mil SP "combat specialist" who doesn't into a comedy kill-mail.

You will lose ships as you're learning - so choose cheap ships and lose them. Lose ten or so and you'll probably be getting close fights, lose twenty and you'll be winning some of them - even if you're opponent is ten years old.



Because we all know the veteran with his only character -(sarcasm) is going to take his industry character out on a roam looking for solo fights. Majority of veterans build characters concentrated in certain areas of the game. Character bazaar is a good indicater of this.😉

I'm not saying it's a gaurantee a lower skill player will automatically lose 10/10 of the time but I'd wager that veteran isn't out to lose a few ships but rather pad his kill mail stats.
Stitch Kaneland
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#32 - 2015-02-20 19:00:31 UTC
I solo almost exclusively. Sometimes i die 5min after i make the ship. Sometimes i kill 5x what the ship is worth before i go down. Just depends on who you fight and what youre flying.

Funnest aspect is doing things that arent the norm. Like brawler arty gnosis or hull tanked drakes. Ive made 14man gangs run away from a single drake after killing 3/4 of their gang. Solo pvp uses a lot of psychological tactics to get the upper hand. Thats why i enjoy it so much.

I die.. a lot. Comes with the territory of being outnumbered most of the time.

Give Battlecruisers range to fullfil their Anti-Cruiser role - OP SUCCESS

Make the Muninn great again!
Presidente Gallente
Best Kept Dunked
OnlyFleets.
#33 - 2015-02-20 19:01:34 UTC
You can solo PvP anytime. It just depends on how much you want to lose and much more important: do you have the time and ISK to replace your stuff again and again?
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2015-02-20 19:39:07 UTC
People who appreciate solo content came to the forum, were told to leave EVE, they aren't welcome.

So they did.
Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#35 - 2015-02-20 19:42:26 UTC
Sisohiv wrote:
People who appreciate solo content came to the forum, were told to leave EVE, they aren't welcome.

So they did.


Did they?
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2015-02-20 19:49:35 UTC
Renegade Heart wrote:
Sisohiv wrote:
People who appreciate solo content came to the forum, were told to leave EVE, they aren't welcome.

So they did.


Did they?


Some left the content, others left the game entirely. Either way you are left with the blobs and that second M in MMO. Funny thing about the second M in MMO though, try account sharing, see where it gets you.
Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#37 - 2015-02-20 21:20:50 UTC
Sisohiv wrote:
Renegade Heart wrote:
Sisohiv wrote:
People who appreciate solo content came to the forum, were told to leave EVE, they aren't welcome.

So they did.


Did they?


Some left the content, others left the game entirely. Either way you are left with the blobs and that second M in MMO. Funny thing about the second M in MMO though, try account sharing, see where it gets you.


I'd rather use alts. Account sharing sounds bad (EULA violation) so no thanks.

Also no matter how big the blobs might be getting there are still tons of players killing things on their own. Solo PvP is far from dead. Maybe it's just too hard for some nowadays?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#38 - 2015-02-20 21:38:09 UTC
LordSpook Anpumesses wrote:
A few of you know me, most prolly dont, I have lived in Placid and Black Rise (Gal/Cal FW space) for over 2 years now and the last few months there has been a major decline in solo fighting, compared to what it use to be its practically non-exsistant. Its become more of a blob fest of null sec style. Now some time last year some there was a lot of whining and crying about cloaky warp stabbed ships and how they should be banned some how and make the plex rats respawn like crack addicts to encourage more solo pvp, will how did that work out for ya? most of you prolly arent even in low anymore prataking in solo pvp are ya? (most prolly werent even out here to begain with) at the time people that lived out here said it was a bad idea with loads of reasons why and just about all of them came true didnt they?

I for one would like to see the glory days of low sec fighting return but it means kill board ***** mite have to get alittle butthurt once in awhile cause there may be a player thats doesnt want to get insta popped to their 3 times boosted deadspace fit whatever ship and just simply cloaks or warps off. OOORRRRR we continue to slowly bleed low sec solo players and pretty much become just another null sec region with out the sav.

I really love saying this in game and RL but WE TOLD YOU SO! :P

yes half the words are prolly misspelled but i dont care,
o7
-LrdSpk



You are doing it wrong.

There's plenty of solo PVP. Try suicide ganking non-combatant ships in highsec, hyperdunking freighters, and tricking noobs into duels.

You want PVP in lowsec get into FW. You'll need to fit a cloak.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
vccv
#39 - 2015-02-20 22:14:33 UTC
Im for getting rid of killboards all together. Not a very popular idea though.
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
#40 - 2015-02-20 22:31:58 UTC
Sisohiv wrote:
People who appreciate solo content came to the forum, were told to leave EVE, they aren't welcome.

So they did.

You are egregiously misinformed.