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JDC 5 compensation

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#21 - 2015-02-20 16:32:14 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
You were compensated for JDC skill with the ability for caps to use gates.







Which is frankly a massive buff that made me want to train for capitals after 8 years of zero interest in them.
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2015-02-20 16:37:28 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
You were compensated for JDC skill with the ability for caps to use gates.



Which is frankly a massive buff that made me want to train for capitals after 8 years of zero interest in them.


Carrier and dread roams anyone?

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#23 - 2015-02-20 17:22:17 UTC
BoBoZoBo wrote:
I have JDC 5 and it works just fine relative to the changes. If I did not have it it would be worse, so... what is the problem here?

Yup.
Jump fatigue and the reduced jump ranges are awful, but I don't regret training JDC 5 on my characters.
Ryder 'ook
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2015-02-20 17:30:16 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
You were compensated for JDC skill with the ability for caps to use gates.



Which is frankly a massive buff that made me want to train for capitals after 8 years of zero interest in them.


Carrier and dread roams anyone?



Yes please!!!

Every atom in our bodies was forged in the furnace of ancient stars - it's time we return home.
Desimus Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#25 - 2015-02-20 18:16:21 UTC
BoomBoss wrote:
6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.

When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?



I'm still waiting for my Orca and Itty V compensation.

Between the 2 ships I have just about 3 months of skilling.

Now, you can be in an Itty V in 33 min and an Orca in 17 days-ish.

And then, to top it off they remove the Itty V's crown of sub-capital hauling capacity and move it to the Bestower.

It's called a shell game. Constantly moving skills and bonuses in order to keep you and me skilling and thus subscribing.

Kind of a d!ck move if you ask me.
Desimus Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#26 - 2015-02-20 18:33:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Desimus Maximus
BoomBoss wrote:
What value? What used to take maybe an hour takes days now. Getting solo with a carrier back to deep nul is just not possible. So, you tell me what value?


Awww. Having to make strategic decisions that matter too tough for you? Cry


JUMP FATIGUE is the best thing that CCP has done in my 5 yrs of EvE.
Lil' Brudder Too
Pistols for Pandas
#27 - 2015-02-20 18:47:20 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
.You shouldn't be training skills like they are going to be useful in the same way they are now, it's not CCP's fault that people don't understand this.

Wait...so we should be training skills for how we can dream up how they might be useful if they got changed to something else? How does that even make sense? Don't train skills for what they are good for now??? Then what other criteria should guide us in making choices as to what to train?

New Icon SiSi feedback thread that got wholly ignored!

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Serene Repose
#28 - 2015-02-20 18:48:53 UTC
Has it been that long already? Geez! Well, that means football season will be back that much sooner!

GO PATTIES!

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#29 - 2015-02-20 21:39:36 UTC
Noriko Mai wrote:
BoomBoss wrote:
6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.

When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?

You can't use you JD anymore? Shocked



I've been drinking JD since I was 14 so I don't know what the OPs problem is.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#30 - 2015-02-20 21:45:28 UTC
BoomBoss wrote:
JDC 5 ... near useless skill ...
My Jump Freighter alt would like a word with you.

ISD Ezwal Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#31 - 2015-02-20 22:05:50 UTC
ISD Ezwal wrote:
BoomBoss wrote:
JDC 5 ... near useless skill ...
My Jump Freighter alt would like a word with you.

Your jump freighter still has a respectable range, along with its fatigue reduction bonus.
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#32 - 2015-02-21 01:00:15 UTC
Ya know what....




Just blame PL because that's what everyone else does.

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?
PhantomMajor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2015-02-21 01:39:30 UTC
When this game was created no one fore saw that capital ships would be in such abundance and because of their over use particularly by known hotdropper alliances something had to be done to curb this excessive use.

To date I have survived numerous nerfs including torps..."X" up if you remember when they had the same range as cruise missiles.

So in short: Over Come, Adapt, Improvise! Or die
Chopper Rollins
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#34 - 2015-02-21 02:06:13 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
You were compensated for JDC skill with the ability for caps to use gates.







I'm going to allow this sensible, insightful non-troll post because you look like Maynard James Keenan, but be advised i've got my eye on you.



Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Bel Tika
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2015-02-21 03:07:51 UTC
A trained mining

WHERE MA REFUND CECEPEE!!
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#36 - 2015-02-21 10:26:39 UTC
BoomBoss wrote:
Eugene Kerner wrote:
BoomBoss wrote:
6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.

When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?

Do you even play this game? Jdc 5 is still a mandatory skill and even more important than before.



What part of a heavily nerfed skill by CCP choice, so forced upon us, that takes ages to train which used to be useful? The skill training time is not even remotely in line with what it used to be.

With a carrier, how often do you actually jump and how often do you travel by gate?


Depends on the operation, but we do both every day. The skill training time is absolutely justified. Someone with JDC4 can basicly not take part in any of our operations.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#37 - 2015-02-21 11:07:47 UTC
Hal Morsh wrote:
Ya know what....




Just blame PL because that's what everyone else does.




grrr PL

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Iain Cariaba
#38 - 2015-02-21 17:53:10 UTC
BoomBoss wrote:
6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.

When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?

AFAIK, the only time CCP has ever refunded SP was when they removed learning skills. So, you can expect to see compensation for this when they remove JDC from the game. Until then, HTFU or GTFO.
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#39 - 2015-02-22 08:14:31 UTC
BoomBoss wrote:
6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.

When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?

I don't know what you're talking about. I Trained one more and am training another into JDC V. It's still valuable.
Bahnny
Le Fancy
Strictly Unprofessional
#40 - 2015-02-22 21:38:48 UTC
BoomBoss wrote:

With a carrier, how often do you actually jump and how often do you travel by gate?


Carrier's dont undock now. You silly.

It's post-phoebe, Welcome to interceptor online.
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