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Neutral corporations being war decked

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Thonys Visser
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-02-20 11:37:57 UTC
hi all,

I was wandering why a treu neurtal corporation (passive corp)
can be war decked by anny corporation randomly in Hs

what i mean is that a real carebear mining group with no intention to war or anny aggression
is just being war decked random
there is no tactics or diplomacy involved at all
there is the space councel (doing nothing)
Concord (doing nothing)

it all ends up in no fights
and only compulsory holidays

what ends up in a disbanded player base in the long run

i think that mechanic needs a better upgrade or solution





Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#2 - 2015-02-20 11:40:10 UTC
INB4...yawn

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Thonys Visser
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-02-20 11:44:55 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
INB4...yawn


?
and the answer is ?
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#4 - 2015-02-20 11:47:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
the same as what its been in the dozens of other threads that this subject errupts too, its a sandbox people can do what they want and if that means griefing, its a pvp game and wardeccers want pvp whether you like it or not, jump to an npc corp if you cant fight and dont start a corp unless your prepared to fight or hire someone to fight for you "why should you make risk free isk and disrupt my playstyle". move to nullsec its much safer ;)

Just sayin

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
CerN Frostwolf
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-02-20 11:59:47 UTC
Feel free to tell anyone who wants to quit the game to send me their isk.
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-02-20 12:01:37 UTC
Hello young space pilot! I see you have recently run into problems with wardecers. For one payment of only 500 million + the value of whatever I kill by the time you surrender, you can avoid atleast one of your new incoming wardecs!

What a deal!

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
Memphis Baas
#7 - 2015-02-20 12:06:16 UTC
It's because this is a PVP game, and wars, just like in RL, don't have to be agreeable by all parties. For example, Poland probably didn't like it when Germany invaded.
Auduin Ituin
Doomheim
#8 - 2015-02-20 12:10:55 UTC
And Poland could've gotten friends to help them (did they? I don't know history). Just like you can in eve. Got no friends? Well maybe you should start making connections.
Thonys Visser
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-02-20 12:20:21 UTC
CerN Frostwolf wrote:
Feel free to tell anyone who wants to quit the game to send me their isk.


i have a solution for you ;
go to a local bank
and get a big loan
an do not pay it back...
Josef Djugashvilis
#10 - 2015-02-20 12:24:23 UTC
Thonys Visser wrote:
hi all,

I was wandering why a treu neurtal corporation (passive corp)
can be war decked by anny corporation randomly in Hs

what i mean is that a real carebear mining group with no intention to war or anny aggression
is just being war decked random
there is no tactics or diplomacy involved at all
there is the space councel (doing nothing)
Concord (doing nothing)

it all ends up in no fights
and only compulsory holidays

what ends up in a disbanded player base in the long run

i think that mechanic needs a better upgrade or solution







Three years you have been playing, and you still want to ask this question?

Lordy...

This is not a signature.
Sequester Risalo
German Corps of Engineers 17
Federation of Respect Honor Passion Alliance.
#11 - 2015-02-20 12:29:01 UTC
Auduin Ituin wrote:
And Poland could've gotten friends to help them (did they? I don't know history).


It depends what era you're talking of. The last time Poland was attacked two European great powers declared war at the agressor.

On topic:
I only wonder how corporations can declare war on each other. As far as I know currently only independent countries can. Just imagine Apple fighting it out with Microsoft, bombing Redmont, and the police force is standing by doing nothing because Apple paid the required fee and filed proper documents.

But real life analogies don't get you far in EVE. The game is set distant in time and location so we can accept that it is possible for legal entities to declare war on each other.
Sakiya Shiratori
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-02-20 12:30:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Sakiya Shiratori
You're not a neutral corp at all. You're flooding the market with ore and lowering demand.
Without pvpers there would be no demand for your product so your corp mates would end up quitting anyway.
Aursentris
Council of Stellar Erections
#13 - 2015-02-20 12:36:52 UTC
Thonys Visser wrote:
hi all,

I was wandering why a treu neurtal corporation (passive corp)
can be war decked by anny corporation randomly in Hs

what i mean is that a real carebear mining group with no intention to war or anny aggression
is just being war decked random
there is no tactics or diplomacy involved at all
there is the space councel (doing nothing)
Concord (doing nothing)

it all ends up in no fights
and only compulsory holidays

what ends up in a disbanded player base in the long run

i think that mechanic needs a better upgrade or solution








Give me your stuff before you quit please
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#14 - 2015-02-20 12:42:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Godfrey Silvarna
New eden is a hard dystopian world where there is no centralized authority to protect you. If you want protection, you will have to build it for yourself or join an entity that already provides security.

Also, competition by gunfire is awesome. I wish mission runners had incentive to compete for some scarce resource as well.
Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-02-20 12:44:53 UTC
for the op's obvious troll

There are no "Neutral" corps. Just corps that haven't died yet.


A Neutral corp in Eve is just like soap on a rope. Useless unless in prison.

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

Free The Scope Three
Ro Fenrios
Armilies Corporation
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#16 - 2015-02-20 12:47:42 UTC
If you want to keep what you have built, you must also be prepared to protect it. That is one very simple rule in EVE. You can hire help or you can adapt to wardecs and deny your offenders content. Or.. you could fight back. Many of the wardecs are not to find serious fight, but just to farm your target. Use that for your advatange.
Wendrika Hydreiga
#17 - 2015-02-20 13:05:35 UTC
Quite a shame CONCORD just signs up Wardecs to just any Joe without provocation from the defender. Imagine the backlash if CCP hit gold and found an adequate system to weigh if a Wardec is justifiable or just some bored player looking to hussle some carebears. How horrible that would be.

But then we'd all lose out on the good folks moaning about how there's still people in NPC corps. That would suck!
Helios Panala
#18 - 2015-02-20 13:05:54 UTC
Welcome to high-sec, possibly the dumbest area in the game.
Large rewards, little risk, and where risk does exist it's massively one-sided.

Low, null and wormholes are more dangerous but at least the danger is "fair". Personal preference I suppose.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#19 - 2015-02-20 13:12:28 UTC
Thonys Visser wrote:
i think that mechanic needs a better upgrade or solution

The solution is not in the mechanics.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#20 - 2015-02-20 13:18:05 UTC
Thonys Visser wrote:


I was wandering why a treu neurtal corporation (passive corp)
can be war decked by anny corporation randomly in Hs


Mining IS aggression, against the wallets of other miners. That makes you fair game.
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