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Removal of MWD and other senseless modules

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Saansha Grey
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-02-19 12:35:39 UTC
I'm wondering how it would be if we don't have a MWD at all.
How would it affect solo PvP?

If there were not so many fitting options, could it be that people are more willing to take fights,
because they can estimate their opponent better and do not have to expect a too specialized fit
in which the aggressor can dictate wether he want to fight or not?

There are some others:

- MJD
I was always wondering why we must have this???
It just adds the need for another tackler.

- Warp Stabs
fitting limit?

- Ancilary Shield/Armor repair
Do we really need those?

- Scram/Disruptor
I'd love to see those working like other ewar mods - by calculated chance like ECM.
lolcorpholder alt
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-02-19 13:01:48 UTC
why have 4 weapon systems? in two different variants/system? in 4 different sizes? in 2-3 subsizes/size?

One type should be enough for everyone

Why have different slot layouts? 1 slot for a gun more than enough

Why have different ships?

Starting to see the pattern in here?
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#3 - 2015-02-19 13:22:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Lloyd Roses
You don't need scrams if you got no mwds/mjds and no warpstabs. Durr.

Also, I like the above poster's approach. Ships should have hull bonuses and then you add either a long range gun or a shortrange gun. Can't warp with weapons timer. Perfect. Pointing someone gives that person a weapons timer.

Oh wait.

Positive effects:
- You deny people the right to dock/jump/warp by pointing them with a trial.
Victoria Ramsay
Doomheim
#4 - 2015-02-19 14:42:01 UTC
Ummm........what?

-1
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#5 - 2015-02-19 14:56:12 UTC
Well, this is the worst idea of the year so far.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#6 - 2015-02-19 15:23:07 UTC
Saansha Grey wrote:
I'm wondering how it would be if we don't have a MWD at all.
How would it affect solo PvP?

If there were not so many fitting options, could it be that people are more willing to take fights,
because they can estimate their opponent better and do not have to expect a too specialized fit
in which the aggressor can dictate wether he want to fight or not?

There are some others:

- MJD
I was always wondering why we must have this???
It just adds the need for another tackler.

- Warp Stabs
fitting limit?

- Ancilary Shield/Armor repair
Do we really need those?

- Scram/Disruptor
I'd love to see those working like other ewar mods - by calculated chance like ECM.



The game you are looking for is called pong. 2 wide bars, one small dot bounced between them till its not blocked. It doesn't even have all the power ups on the games that came after it that emulated it (bigger bar power up, multiple balls, or even lasers to shoot stuff). If lack of any variety in fitting is your idea of pvp...this is right up your alley.


Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#7 - 2015-02-19 15:24:21 UTC
There seems to be a lot of this going around this week. Terribilitus ideos.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Iain Cariaba
#8 - 2015-02-19 16:12:26 UTC
Soldarius wrote:
There seems to be a lot of this going around this week. Terribilitus ideos.

Nope, sorry, it's not just this week. Seems that since CCP went on the extreme and nerfed jump drives, the crazies are coming out of the woodwork with their bad ideas.
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-02-19 16:34:41 UTC
So basically the tl;dr of the OP is:

I have no idea how Eve PVP works, and all the choices scare me.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno

FireFrenzy
Cynosural Samurai
#10 - 2015-02-19 16:47:26 UTC
Saansha Grey wrote:
I'm wondering how it would be if we don't have a MWD at all.
How would it affect solo PvP?

If there were not so many fitting options, could it be that people are more willing to take fights,
because they can estimate their opponent better and do not have to expect a too specialized fit
in which the aggressor can dictate wether he want to fight or not?

There are some others:

- MJD
I was always wondering why we must have this???
It just adds the need for another tackler.

- Warp Stabs
fitting limit?

- Ancilary Shield/Armor repair
Do we really need those?

- Scram/Disruptor
I'd love to see those working like other ewar mods - by calculated chance like ECM.


In order
-Because it is awesome (and adds a new tactical element)

- No, the downside is valid as is...

- Yes, Because they add cool options, in fact we need the rest of the line up for the inferno modules

- Because losing your ship to random chance/Not getting that awesome killmail due to random chance is stupid... If anything i'd like to see ECM become LESS random
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#11 - 2015-02-19 16:47:27 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Well, this is the worst idea of the year so far.

I hate to give least intelligent OP of this year away so early but you are right.

EvE-Mail me if you need anything.

Khan Wrenth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2015-02-19 16:50:34 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Well, this is the worst idea of the year so far.


Oh you wait, I'm cooking up a doozy of one, myself.
scorchlikeshiswhiskey
Totally Abstract
O X I D E
#13 - 2015-02-19 17:26:11 UTC
Saansha Grey wrote:
I'm wondering how it would be if we don't have a MWD at all.
How would it affect solo PvP?

I'm wondering how it would be if you biomassed. How would it affect the forums?
Kabark
Schilden
#14 - 2015-02-19 17:43:31 UTC
How dare you try to make fewer fitting variations! I say we need more fitting options! Like when you could slap A useless XL blaster on an Ibis for the lulz.
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-02-19 17:46:30 UTC
scorchlikeshiswhiskey wrote:
Saansha Grey wrote:
I'm wondering how it would be if we don't have a MWD at all.
How would it affect solo PvP?

I'm wondering how it would be if you biomassed. How would it affect the forums?


Positively would be my guess, but there's only one way to be sure.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno

Colette Kassia
Kassia Industrial Supply
#16 - 2015-02-19 18:11:25 UTC
Obvious troll is obvious.
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2015-02-19 19:18:05 UTC
Saansha Grey wrote:
I'm wondering how it would be if we don't have a MWD at all.
How would it affect solo PvP?

If there were not so many fitting options, could it be that people are more willing to take fights,
because they can estimate their opponent better and do not have to expect a too specialized fit
in which the aggressor can dictate wether he want to fight or not?

There are some others:

- MJD
I was always wondering why we must have this???
It just adds the need for another tackler.

- Warp Stabs
fitting limit?

- Ancilary Shield/Armor repair
Do we really need those?

- Scram/Disruptor
I'd love to see those working like other ewar mods - by calculated chance like ECM.


I don't know what EVE would be like in any of these what if scenarios. I doubt we ever will know. They won't happen.

I'd like to see an EVE where we made decisions based on experience and not killmail propaganda but yea, that won't happen either.
Iain Cariaba
#18 - 2015-02-19 23:48:58 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
scorchlikeshiswhiskey wrote:
Saansha Grey wrote:
I'm wondering how it would be if we don't have a MWD at all.
How would it affect solo PvP?

I'm wondering how it would be if you biomassed. How would it affect the forums?


Positively would be my guess, but there's only one way to be sure.

Maybe, maybe not. Shiptoasters are like gnats. Every time you swat one, two more take its place.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#19 - 2015-02-20 00:34:16 UTC
Guys... check out the OP's name. Remove the "n" from the first one. Look it up in Google (warning: nsfw).

This is a clear troll, even to me.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#20 - 2015-02-20 00:38:02 UTC
Khan Wrenth wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Well, this is the worst idea of the year so far.


Oh you wait, I'm cooking up a doozy of one, myself.


You've got a wall to climb, not going to lie.

How do you beat "Let's completely and utterly break the game"?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

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