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Defeating CODE/Gankers

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Intar Medris
KarmaFleet University
#121 - 2015-02-16 13:00:47 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Intar Medris wrote:
Afterwards ganking will decrease back down to normal levels. It won't cease to exsist but won't be nearly as prevalent as it is now.


Oh, this should be good. What is your definition of "normal levels"?

Tora Bushido wrote:
Confirming I am a James alt too.


Don't be so modest. Everyone knows James 315 is a Tora alt.



Well back around 2010ish preCODE outside of Hulkegeddon getting ganked was uncommon. You hardly ever saw a -10 too in high sec, and ganking freighters was almost unheard off. Pretty much the current ganking trend for the last two years is do too bored Null sec pilots.

I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.
Capt Starfox
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#122 - 2015-02-16 15:09:42 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:


Good try Ms. Foxxie....from the blog posts I identify at least three distinct human writers...so James is certainly not writing every day.

And no, logging in to check mail and write is not playing the game. James tried bumping, tried ganking, tried running for CSM, tried fundamentally changing highsec, failed everywhere, and left the game. It's a sad tale Foxxie...and I'm worried the same will happen to you. Leave code before the stench of failure compels you to unsub.


I remember years ago when carebears were saying how the New Order wasn't doing anything and how is was going to fail. I believe around this time we were camping the static ice belts, but small in numbers. The carebears were so quick to say how our efforts were meaningless for [insert carebear reason here] and because of that the New Order wasn't going to accomplish anything; or, in your case, won't change Highsec.

Since then we have organized fleets that have caused hundreds of trillions worth of damage to Orcas, Freighters, mission runners, Barges/Exhumers, the standard T1/T2 hauler and various other types of ships (Frigates, pods, etc.).

Not to mention that CODE. and the New Order have become so well-known that we are often times brought up in articles and other blog posts for reference, or complaints.

You're some years too late. What you're saying has already been said and yet here we are. In fact, the only real difference is that we've grown since then.

Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#123 - 2015-02-16 18:57:29 UTC
Intar Medris wrote:
admiral root wrote:
Intar Medris wrote:
Afterwards ganking will decrease back down to normal levels. It won't cease to exsist but won't be nearly as prevalent as it is now.


Oh, this should be good. What is your definition of "normal levels"?

Tora Bushido wrote:
Confirming I am a James alt too.


Don't be so modest. Everyone knows James 315 is a Tora alt.



Well back around 2010ish preCODE outside of Hulkegeddon getting ganked was uncommon. You hardly ever saw a -10 too in high sec, and ganking freighters was almost unheard off. Pretty much the current ganking trend for the last two years is do too bored Null sec pilots.



Well that's all very nice, but where are the facts to back that up? For example, are you aware that there's actually somewhere around 0.5% chance of losing your ship for any reason, not just ganking in three of the biggest gank systems in the game (source: dotlan on numerous occasions - you'll find the exact numbers in my post history).

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#124 - 2015-02-16 18:59:31 UTC
Intar Medris wrote:
admiral root wrote:
Intar Medris wrote:
Afterwards ganking will decrease back down to normal levels. It won't cease to exsist but won't be nearly as prevalent as it is now.


Oh, this should be good. What is your definition of "normal levels"?

Tora Bushido wrote:
Confirming I am a James alt too.


Don't be so modest. Everyone knows James 315 is a Tora alt.



Well back around 2010ish preCODE outside of Hulkegeddon getting ganked was uncommon. You hardly ever saw a -10 too in high sec, and ganking freighters was almost unheard off. Pretty much the current ganking trend for the last two years is do too bored Null sec pilots.


Also,

And please correct me if I am wrong but in fan fest 2 years ago CCP said ganking slowed down compared to previous years. The only difference now it is more advertised and people are now hitting bigger targets.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#125 - 2015-02-17 05:45:13 UTC
Capt Starfox wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:


Good try Ms. Foxxie....from the blog posts I identify at least three distinct human writers...so James is certainly not writing every day.

And no, logging in to check mail and write is not playing the game. James tried bumping, tried ganking, tried running for CSM, tried fundamentally changing highsec, failed everywhere, and left the game. It's a sad tale Foxxie...and I'm worried the same will happen to you. Leave code before the stench of failure compels you to unsub.


I remember years ago when carebears were saying how the New Order wasn't doing anything and how is was going to fail. I believe around this time we were camping the static ice belts, but small in numbers. The carebears were so quick to say how our efforts were meaningless for [insert carebear reason here] and because of that the New Order wasn't going to accomplish anything; or, in your case, won't change Highsec.

Since then we have organized fleets that have caused hundreds of trillions worth of damage to Orcas, Freighters, mission runners, Barges/Exhumers, the standard T1/T2 hauler and various other types of ships (Frigates, pods, etc.).

Not to mention that CODE. and the New Order have become so well-known that we are often times brought up in articles and other blog posts for reference, or complaints.

You're some years too late. What you're saying has already been said and yet here we are. In fact, the only real difference is that we've grown since then.


You didn't do anything. You blew up some pathetic miners. You griefed some noobs in ventures. You used cheap bumping tactics to kill a few freighters. Yippee ka yay yea. You have completely failed to even mildly perturb us elite mission and incursion runners. You managed to troll yourself in a staggering defeat in the AT, and now your leaders have all quit the game.

Ganking some pathetic afk ships is one thing, fundamentally changing the risk/reward balance in highsec is quite another. James is gone, Loyalanon is gone, Rabe Raptor is gone, I mean you guys are really scraping the bottom of the barrel days...all you got left is Chocolate Moose guy and people with unpronounceable names. It's more like an AA support group than an elite PvP organization....kinda like the misfit football team in the "Little Giants."

Ms. Foxxie...let's be real here...you gave it your all, but came up (way) short. Highsec was just too much for you. Sometimes you just gotta admit defeat, accept your place in the food chain, and move on. I'm always here if you need a shoulder to cry on.
Zepher Helen Hawat
Malfurion Mining
#126 - 2015-02-17 06:15:17 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
You have completely failed to even mildly perturb us elite mission and incursion runners.


Quick! Somebody get veers a bigger hat before his head gets so stuck we'll need a supercap to pull it free.
Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#127 - 2015-02-19 16:26:50 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:


Good try Ms. Foxxie....from the blog posts I identify at least three distinct human writers...so James is certainly not writing every
day.

And no, logging in to check mail and write is not playing the game.

Even if he writes once every 3 days, thats still impressive as to the amount of content he has created.
Quote:

James tried bumping, tried ganking, tried running for CSM, tried fundamentally changing highsec, failed everywhere, and left the game. It's a sad tale Foxxie...and I'm worried the same will happen to you. Leave code before the stench of failure compels you to unsub.


Sounds like he was succesful, though. His alt, Currin Trading, has 60 billion isk worth of damages, which is quite impressive, and still 10 times more than youve killed. His bumping started a movement that has bumped countless thousands and inflicted trillions of isk worth of damage.

Hes done more than you. Far more. So if he failed, what does that make you?
Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#128 - 2015-02-19 16:31:38 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Capt Starfox wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:


Good try Ms. Foxxie....from the blog posts I identify at least three distinct human writers...so James is certainly not writing every day.

And no, logging in to check mail and write is not playing the game. James tried bumping, tried ganking, tried running for CSM, tried fundamentally changing highsec, failed everywhere, and left the game. It's a sad tale Foxxie...and I'm worried the same will happen to you. Leave code before the stench of failure compels you to unsub.


I remember years ago when carebears were saying how the New Order wasn't doing anything and how is was going to fail. I believe around this time we were camping the static ice belts, but small in numbers. The carebears were so quick to say how our efforts were meaningless for [insert carebear reason here] and because of that the New Order wasn't going to accomplish anything; or, in your case, won't change Highsec.

Since then we have organized fleets that have caused hundreds of trillions worth of damage to Orcas, Freighters, mission runners, Barges/Exhumers, the standard T1/T2 hauler and various other types of ships (Frigates, pods, etc.).

Not to mention that CODE. and the New Order have become so well-known that we are often times brought up in articles and other blog posts for reference, or complaints.

You're some years too late. What you're saying has already been said and yet here we are. In fact, the only real difference is that we've grown since then.


You didn't do anything. You blew up some pathetic miners. You griefed some noobs in ventures. You used cheap bumping tactics to kill a few freighters. Yippee ka yay yea. You have completely failed to even mildly perturb us elite mission and incursion runners. You managed to troll yourself in a staggering defeat in the AT, and now your leaders have all quit the game.

Ganking some pathetic afk ships is one thing, fundamentally changing the risk/reward balance in highsec is quite another. James is gone, Loyalanon is gone, Rabe Raptor is gone, I mean you guys are really scraping the bottom of the barrel days...all you got left is Chocolate Moose guy and people with unpronounceable names. It's more like an AA support group than an elite PvP organization....kinda like the misfit football team in the "Little Giants."

Ms. Foxxie...let's be real here...you gave it your all, but came up (way) short. Highsec was just too much for you. Sometimes you just gotta admit defeat, accept your place in the food chain, and move on. I'm always here if you need a shoulder to cry on.


Yeah, code has lost trillions of isk, while only managing to inflict a mere couple billion isk of damage. Clearly they lost. Theres no sticky GM thread regarding bumping or hyperdunking. People never complain about Code. People never constantly post threads about how they lost(i.e. you). People never constantly complain about how ganking is too easy, too frequent, should be nerfed, etc. Miners arent telling other miners to tank their ships, or fly skiffs. Industrials arent telling other industrials how to tank their freighters and industrial ships. We dont have a channel dedicated to Anti-ganking and anti-code activities.

Code lost, becuase none of this is true. None of this, happened.

Wait, i thought today was opposite day. My mistake.
Azov Rassau
Iron Destiny
#129 - 2015-03-05 10:51:38 UTC
I believe this thread deserves a bump. As an addition to the very good points made by Seraph, I highly recommend all highsec miners to check out the counter-ganking gameplay that comes from this ECM Skiff idea. It is one of the many simple examples of what can be achieved if more miners change their attitude. of course, to do this they will have to stay at keyboard and concentrate on their fun/hour, not ISK/hour. Roll

and stop whining. Play the game. If you don't like gankers, step up, HTFU and fight or avoid them. you (and they) will have fun while making highsec a better place overall.. there is a reason why most gankers are happy to see people who fight them: Fun.

Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
Azov Rassau wrote:
6) Jonah Gravenstein's reaction
That expression just about covers it Lol

I know right? That expression is monumental. It represents the reaction of entire C&P community to the whine threads. I hope that one day CCP will make a sculpture/monument of that expression on Esja mountains in the north of Reykjavik. Lol

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#130 - 2015-03-05 12:25:29 UTC
Azov Rassau wrote:


6) Jonah Gravenstein's reaction

Yay I'm space famous, replaced the link with a better quality one P

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Thomas Mayaki
Perkone
Caldari State
#131 - 2015-03-06 13:13:47 UTC
Always keep a few spare retrievers fully fitted because if you are ganked and don't have a replacement ship it interupts the isk making process.
If the gankers are persistant switch to some procurers for a bit.

PS. Remember to insure your retrievers and consider a gank an inefficient way of converting minerals to isk.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#132 - 2015-03-08 00:15:41 UTC
I spent 15 minutes yesterday listening to some imbecile describe why there should be a high sec legal carrier with 2K dps, that's able to fit 6 capital remote reps with 230K ehp. I guess that might defeat code's ganking operations...

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Haleuth
Peoples Liberation Army
Goonswarm Federation
#133 - 2015-03-08 01:33:14 UTC
Intar Medris wrote:
[quote=admiral root][quote=Intar Medris]

Well back around 2010ish preCODE outside of Hulkegeddon getting ganked was uncommon. You hardly ever saw a -10 too in high sec, and ganking freighters was almost unheard off. Pretty much the current ganking trend for the last two years is do too bored Null sec pilots.


Incorrect

Macrointel was organising ganks from 2005 onwards.

Hal