EVE General Discussion

All that is very interesting. Just would like to share few elements..

My goal was only to go see this new station/tower structure that was cloaked. And i found also an unidentified wh and Drifters and circadian seekers. While looking at the BS near the tower, he warped of in the wh direction just a second before the circadian seekers arrived. I warped to the wh and witnessed the Drifters BS slowly going toward the wh and literaly vanished once near it. I was myself cloaked at around 7500m of the BS. Did the BS knew they were coming ?

Circadian seekers and the Drifters ship scanned (or interacted with their white beam or kind of beam) the beacon (station and/or wh beacons to which you're warping at). I've already been scanned myself by one of this beam by circadian seekers, i killed them that time and they never shooted back (but i heard it has changed now) and that time it was harmless.
That was just few things concerning their attitude in system.

Concerning towers it could be interesting to know if they are in systems with same sun type or anything common between systems. Some of you were talking about Thera (i took a pic of the wh but not as it was asked to so it probably wouldn't help much to show it) and before the patch i was wondering if Thera whs were not recurrently appearing in same systems and especialy close to those cloaked towers.

Since Thera appeared i have found 2 or 3 times a wh driving to Thera in the same system (no tower in this one) plus once in a system next to it and, coincidence (?), the "unidentified wh" appeared in the last one.

So, i'm not giving much informations, sorry, and i'm new in the Lore background (i have so much to see) but i just wanted to share those few things i noticed and my questioning about those wh. If anyone of you have some answers, i would be glad to have them.

awesome post

I can personally attest that on sisi as of a couple days ago bringing a dread will not cause anything odd to happen. However, once I knocked out the initial 2 drifters, 3 more warped in and engaged me. By that point I was out of cap due to repping the dd damage and had to warp out. They did not try to stop me, nor did I see them follow. However, I did not stick around on the gate.

Well, Mordu's Legion is at home in Pure Blind, together with the Sisters of Eve, to which the violent wormholes in Thera seem to lead, according to background analysis. So there may be a real connection.

i really want to try 2 things :

- bring a gnosis
- Bring the ghost sites implants.

I was on sisi the other day before the patch and people were talking about the Drifters not DD'ing ships that were sieged/bastion. Has this been confirmed on TQ? Or did CCP fix their behavior to correctly deal with ewar immune ships?

Could you possibly tracking disrupt them and speed tank with something fast/close?

I thought no one flies a Burst=)

I think it's safe to assume that any advanced weaponry the Jove have today should be far more powerful than any Terran weapon known or discovered.
And the reason for this is simple : the Jove, unlike the Empires, have never undergone the space-dark-ages and never had to re-invent space-flight for example. While the Empires had to work their way back into being space-faring civilizations, the Jove we're having their First Empire and such and were busy deciding how many more arms they should grow. This being said, they had continued access to Terran tech and it stands to reason that not only they can use it without any problems, but most surely they have also improved on it by now.
Although they have suffered the fall of the First and Second Empire they would not have lost much in the ways of technology - these different collapses were more organizational than technological (even in Terran history most Empires grew and developed on the technologies of the previous ones, bringing their own improvements, technological evolution so to say).

It is my sincere belief that there is no "magic Terran gun" that the Jove fear (excluding the fact that fear is probably an emotion they have long since curbed) - but if the Jove would indeed search for the "magic Terran gun" they would do so in order to prevent the "wayward children" from blasting themselves to kingdom-come and eventually getting into their heads the idea that now they have "the big shtick" and they can take on even the Jove (we know very well how that ended for the last Empire that picked a fight with them).

I think you may be on to something.

These guys are definitely looking for something. Desperately.

Something to ponder over & get your brain in gear: How do the drifters fit in all of this?

-First: Drifters look like the Jove, (albeit cybernetically enhanced), so they got a clear & visible link to the Jove, despite how different they are tech-wise

-Second: Blowing up a drifter yields salvage (and loot too now it seems) that you also find in Sleeper wrecks, so they got a connection with them to.

-Third: the Drifter symbol, the triple integral is not just a symbol, it's the symbol to write a triple integral for a closed volume, used in hyper-euclidian mathematics, something the Talocan race mastered, so they've got a link with them too. (Closed Volume Integral symbol googled)

-Fourth: Hierachy structure shares similarities with Nation. Drifters show up in 2 forms (Artemis Tyrannos & Appollo Tyrannos) lead by a third higher ranking Drifter: Strategos Tyrannos. Nation shows a similar structure, with True Slaves & Citizens executing the tasks of their leader, Sansha Kuvakei. they both love enhancing their loyal subjects cybernetically.
However, as we know little of Sleepers & Talocans, this connection is much less direct then the previous 3.

So now we have to find out how the Drifters fit in all of this! Also, re-investigating some sleeper/talocan sites would be a good way to find clues that didn't make much sense prior to the drifters appearing.

Edit: expanded on point 3 to make it clearer