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Tora Bushido for CSM X - A New High-Sec (No Nerfed Disneyland)

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Axloth Okiah
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#341 - 2015-02-14 15:29:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Axloth Okiah
Tora Bushido wrote:
I used to fly in wh space for a few years and I understand they don't have much other options then to be cloaked in space. Sometimes for longer periods to get fleets in the wh's. Then you're not just sitting still without a good reason. In most cases you will be flying around, checking posses, statics etc. Not sure if you'll sit still on grid for longer then 30min much ?

And I am not saying you cant be cloaked..... I love cloaks Twisted
For example during preparation stages of operations we might spend weeks collecting intel on some holes, requiring you to be online and watch as much as you can. And every time you log on or off, you make yourself visible a potentially blow the whole operation. I cant risk being seen every time I want to check whether they are doing anything noteworthy. So with your "solution" we'd either have to push a button up to 47 times a day or not do intel at all. I dont see how either option improves the game.

Or we might be watching someone who is preparing to farm, which can take hours.

And many PvPers multibox during large fight, placing their covops in various holes along the fight for getting warpins, collecting intel, combat scanning or looking for exfiltration routes if the hole gets collapsed or camped. These scouts are just sitting there, being handy in case they are needed. And if Im flying a logi, I really dont want to be clicking random button on other screen just so my buzzard sitting in safespot doesnt die because Im currently busy repping my fleetmates.

So yeah... while I might sympathise with your desire to deal with AFK miners in hisec, I dare say that ******* over wormholers (and others) in the process isnt the right way to do it. Forcing players to click buttons that dont do anything isnt gonna bring fun to anyone. And people who simply cannot dock because the design of space doesnt allow them to do so, shouldnt be extra penalized for living in already hostile place. Unless you propose ejecting AFK players from stations and POSes.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#342 - 2015-02-14 15:56:30 UTC
Axloth Okiah wrote:
So yeah... while I might sympathise with your desire to deal with AFK miners in hisec, I dare say that ******* over wormholers (and others) in the process isnt the right way to do it. Forcing players to click buttons that dont do anything isnt gonna bring fun to anyone. And people who simply cannot dock because the design of space doesnt allow them to do so, shouldnt be extra penalized for living in already hostile place. Unless you propose ejecting AFK players from stations and POSes.
I agree....

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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
#343 - 2015-02-14 17:29:57 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
You're missing his point, actually. He's having too much fun watching you squirm to bother explaining it to you, or perhaps he doesn't feel you're worth his time, but I feel your pain so I'll give you a hint: it's all about your attitude. He reads your posts and listens to what you say, and he disagrees with it. Do you have good ideas? Maybe, sometimes definitely yes. Is it presented in an unbiased fashion? Far from it. Your posts have been very self-centered and condescending. You talk like Tora's platform is an affront to everything you hold dear. Maybe you really feel that way, but bringing it into the discussion isn't going to help.
Actually it's just another example of a player criticising Tora where he has put himself in a position to be criticised and judged. Then rather than responding in a mature way, Tora has tried to make a joke of it or simply insulted the players in question. This is not a new trait, and it's certainly not something I'd expect to see from someone running for a CSM position. Of course Tora can't see this, because in his mind he's perfect and it's the rest of us that must be flawed.

You're expecting a serious response when your "criticism" is nothing but thinly veiled character assassination.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#344 - 2015-02-14 18:43:38 UTC
McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote:
You're expecting a serious response when your "criticism" is nothing but thinly veiled character assassination.
No, I'm not expecting a serious response to my honest review of his campaign. There's certainly no character assassination.

Tora Bushido wrote:
Axloth Okiah wrote:
So yeah... while I might sympathise with your desire to deal with AFK miners in hisec, I dare say that ******* over wormholers (and others) in the process isnt the right way to do it. Forcing players to click buttons that dont do anything isnt gonna bring fun to anyone. And people who simply cannot dock because the design of space doesnt allow them to do so, shouldnt be extra penalized for living in already hostile place. Unless you propose ejecting AFK players from stations and POSes.
I agree....
Another thing you've missed in your AFK idea besides that it actually would affect other players like Axioth has said, it would also do pretty much nothing to miners. A miner will be at the keyboard generally at least once every half hour, since they will need to empty their ship. If they are sitting there on grid for 3 hours AFK, then they are accomplishing nothing, and so don't need to be forced to be active, and in fact logging them off would be beneficial to them. This is just further evidence of a fundamental lack of understanding of game mechanics outside of your own area.

I suppose that is also just "character assassination" however.

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Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#345 - 2015-02-14 19:25:07 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
I suppose that is also just "character assassination" however.
In real life we would call you a stalker Blink

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#346 - 2015-02-14 19:55:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucas Kell
Tora Bushido wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
I suppose that is also just "character assassination" however.
In real life we would call you a stalker Blink
LOL. Mate, you're signing up for what is essentially a political position. People are going to criticise you for what you do and what you say, that doesn't make them stalkers just because you can't deal with that criticism.

I note that you completely ignored the actual point of the post however, presumably because it proves that you have no idea what you are talking about.

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Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#347 - 2015-02-14 20:22:58 UTC
http://www.themittani.com/news/csm-x-candidacy-period-ends-sunday

Time flies when you re having fun. Big smile

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Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#348 - 2015-02-14 23:37:39 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
http://www.themittani.com/news/csm-x-candidacy-period-ends-sunday

Time flies when you re having fun. Big smile


If this is fun to you it just shows what a waste of time your attempt at getting to the csm has been.
If you think you could represent the population of EVE with what you have written here then I feel sorry for you as nothing you have said would encourage people it would rather make them worried that you would be representing them.

I have read a better candidate manifesto for this CSM and the writter is only 14 years old you should read it and learn.

Unfortunately This is just further evidence of a fundamental lack of understanding of game mechanics outside of your own area and as such you should retract your application for your own standings in the community if you have any left.


Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#349 - 2015-02-15 01:28:48 UTC
Sol epoch wrote:
If this is fun to you it just shows what a waste of time your attempt at getting to the csm has been
Just tell me if you need a hug man. It's ok.

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Aram Kachaturian
Aram Pleasure Hub Holding
#350 - 2015-02-15 10:09:23 UTC
A vote for Tora is a vote for freedom and fashion sense, I fully support him. Don't be rused by the haters and posers, Tora is the man.

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Valkin Mordirc
#351 - 2015-02-16 07:24:51 UTC
I think Tora understands that there should be a cloak and dagger with EvE. He knows that EVE should have it's bad players. He knows that weak will always bring down the strongest, if you group them together.


He also understands the weak can become strongest. He knows that the good makes just as a good story as the bad.


I'm still not to sure if I will vote for Tora. But I can say he like what he's been getting at so far.
#DeleteTheWeak
Lennox Dantes
The Tyde
#352 - 2015-02-16 17:00:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Lennox Dantes
Tora,

We have spoken a few times in game, but you probably don't know me that well. I started out in TEST Alliance and flew in the war in Delve... found the politics tedious and boring and didn't want to get that hardcore over a video game... I moved back to high-sec to pursue my passion.

I was a high-sec griefer and ran a small corp with my friends called Wardec U. We were, about a year and a half ago, before CCP's obsession with killing high-sec, 2nd on the Corp. Bounty List (5th now). We were at war with you almost permanently through your support of many of our targets. Our M.O. was simple... hunt and destroy industrial corps until they shut down.

I have a point.. stay with me (my background is somewhat relevant).

I didn't start out my griefing passion with wardecs. A long time ago, when Eve was at its best, you used to be able to can-flip. This may have been just silly bullshit, but I loved it... we all did. We would always have some shenanigans to do, people to irritate and we made a fair bit of fake money (which is not our objective at all). There were mining fleets of people (and mostly alts) in the belts, greedily filling space with cans to save the 4 minutes it takes to dock and drop. Some were even super enterprising and would have one of their clowns flying around to scoop the asteroid poop for them. New players who shared our passion had a way to immediately pvp (the eve kind of pvp where deaths cost someone something, not the stupid E-Peen, I am so skilled at pressing my buttons kind like most MMOs).

Then, Eve released an update (not sure the name of the patch). They decided that Mining ships should have a special bay just for ore, that it should be large and that mining was too difficult (an activity that was already incredibly AFK). For the next two weeks our action decreased to the point of complete scarcity. Mining became a solo activity and jet cans were something we saw once in a blue moon. On top of that, in a later patch, they change the flagging rules... because somehow the internet space police are all knowing and can't be fooled... I quit the game because it was boring and I was pissed that a game that once prided itself on it's "ruthlessness" had backpedaled into nothing more than your typical world pvp mmo.

A year later, my buddy texted me with a new plan. We were still pissed, but he had a way to make miners pay... Wardec U was born and we were quite succesful in pissing off many deserving carebears.

I beleive that the Jetcan rules are creating a solo high sec. That high sec is so easy to AFK mine and AFK Mission run that there is no need for people to group up or join corps. Carebears can have their cake and eat it too. That I can not abide.



The reason I tell you my story is because there are plenty of people like me who stopped playing. Plenty. We want to see high-sec be a place where there is a purpose. Where miners need to work together again and can't just AFK. Where griefers (or pirates) are actually causing an impact in the AFK lifestyle of miners. I'm not just talking about suicide ganking... I'm talking about more immersive, hunt, annoy, destroy... My band of brothers would return if CCP got some intelligent perspective back in their discussion rooms.

My question to you is?

Are you my guy?

You can PM if you would prefer.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#353 - 2015-02-16 18:24:08 UTC
Lennox Dantes wrote:
Are you my guy?
I can give you a very short answer : 100% yes. Twisted

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Migui X'hyrrn
No More Dramas Only Llamas
#354 - 2015-02-16 21:08:08 UTC
Thanks for your endorsement Tora and good luck with your highsec candidacy, I think its pretty solid overall.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#355 - 2015-02-18 09:12:35 UTC
Some nice ideas about posses : http://evenews24.com/2015/02/17/i-didnt-know-you-had-moved/

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#356 - 2015-02-19 03:11:57 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Lennox Dantes wrote:
Are you my guy?
I can give you a very short answer : 100% yes. Twisted



Then you have just secured my votes as well.

Good luck Tora, and thank you for running!

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#357 - 2015-02-19 09:35:54 UTC
A few days until the voting starts. Seems I have to try harder to be evil Twisted

http://greedygoblin.blogspot.nl/2015/02/csm-10-recommendations.html

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

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Held der Finsternis
Highsec Corporate Services
#358 - 2015-02-19 10:19:42 UTC
Good luck in improving highsec!

You can always find me on the forum section of Minerbumping.com :o)

Aram Kachaturian
Aram Pleasure Hub Holding
#359 - 2015-02-21 15:13:17 UTC
Reminder that Tora is the man.

Dont judge his mercenary activities, check out his ideas and his freedom of speech.

He is already famous, CSM is not an ego trip, he just loves EvE and wants to improve it.

Godspeed, Bushido warrior

Eternal Bushido Skymarshal Aram Kachaturian, French Prince and Wielder of the Flame of Ballin'.

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Aram Kachaturian
Aram Pleasure Hub Holding
#360 - 2015-02-21 15:49:04 UTC
Hi, I see nothing wrong in those logs.

You are trying to induce a rage reply with your "...", smileys and arrogance.

Quit being a troublemaker or hater/poser, improve yourself and dont overreact for anything.





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