Ships & Modules

The Naga makes for a poor mission boat ,
believe me,
it will be embarrassing.

Ar some point you're going to have to ask in local for someone to come kill that tackle frigate that got under your guns.
at which point the locals will point and laugh at you .

As far as I'm aware the reast should be fine But the attack bc's are fairly situational.

**** you Ralphie I ran Lvl 3 and 4 with my PVP Snipe Naga when I was trying to get standings for a locate agent. It's possible to due but you will trying to get the perfect angler velocity in order to hit frigates. Did have one close loss though. Landed in a cage of them. O.o Managed to warp out and come back in a Ferox.


From what I could tell, Naga did it fast just as long as you can MWD your scappy ass away. Ferox if you are going to be landing with in "**** it" range.

so have i, and yes one of those frigs got under my guns and tackled me

by all counts the talos is better for it because drones

While it's dps is a tad on the crappy side, the drake is a solid workhorse, plus in pve they have the added bonus of being relatively idiot-proof (yay missiles ).

Ferox would work well too, haven't used it much myself but hear it works pretty good. All depends on your preference of guns or missiles, truth be told.

Seconding the addition of an MMJD on brawling Battlecruisers. The toughest part about a brawling BC is getting someone to close within range of you, since the only way most ships end up close enough to a BC to get hard tackled is by putting themselves there voluntarily and most people aren't that stupid (except Sabre pilots, for some ******* reason). Spooling up an MJD forces them to pick between engaging you safely or letting you get away, and a lot of people are going to make the aggressive decision in that situation.

In general I would not bother with a long point; you're going to be stressed for fitting room and anything with a prop mod available is going to be seconds away from escaping you anyways.


For Home Defense, you may be better off sticking with a well-fitted Moa. Battlecruisers have very poor mobility, both in terms of traveling slowly in warp and not being particularly spry on-grid during a fight. Homeland Defense fleets tend to be reactionary and often need to move quickly to keep pace with their targets or get ahead of them, so bringing along a ship that MWDs at 1km/sec with a 20km effective range is likely to result in the fight happening entirely out of your reach, assuming you even get there before it ends.

Rapid Light Caracals are also stupidly good for small-scale skirmishes for the time being. Putting respectable damage out to 50+ KM with mediocre skills that can consistently apply to pretty much everything short of an actively-sig tanked frigate is amazing value for something you can kit out for 20 mil and there's not really an analogous BC hull.

Ferox or go to Gallente line. Naga cant handle frigs and Drakes after the CCP double nerf is just a brick that hits like a wet paper napkin.

Actually I want to apologize to wet paper napkins, they hit harder than the drake.

Thank you for all the advice, Sorry for the delay....I spent a few days in the Hospital getting my foot repaired after a fish tank broke...sliced through the tendon in my right foot!

So yes this is an alt basically...my main is a Hulk Pilot followed by my other miners including this one at times does mine.

Along with a Freighter...So I am well versed in the boredom of Mining.

As it seems the Naga sounds like it would definetley be out of the running...as for the Drake and Ferox...I will probably just fit one of each and stick them inside the Bowhead or Orca in the time of need. Thank you for all the input.

I also have a Megathron pilot up and coming (who also flies the talos) which I can see as a use for long range targeting so I will probably use the ferox more and or Drake. I have often even thought of using the Manticore but knowing its best in fleets may make it a bit rough though coupled with the Mega (which my Mega got her first pod kill the day the fish tank exploded) but none the less not sure how that would work coupled with the Manticore...

So many choices yet trying to find the best mixture for protection sucks!