Crime & Punishment

CODE? They still around? Haven't seen any in months. Guess they don't get around as much as they used to. Kind of miss them.

Comply Or Die, Exploding.



And here you are, yet again, giving us that attention, Agent Sylphylis.

Once I saw a freighter in an asteroid belt. Code wasn't doing their jobs...


Its good to see that you're still around Held. I was worried after not seeing you for so long.

There are still people who pay for the permits?

OK, thanks for the info, let us know when you actually do something besides talk.

1. Public discussion of proposed military tactics is a lol
2. Your starting a rebellion that will be better than all the rest but you ask us for help? As if you have no idea how to do it?
Your doomed to repeat the mistakes of those before you

Im frankly a little irked that you are attempting to poach people away from my Glorious Highsec Revolutionary Crusade.


Your self centered rebellion will just need to wait until my Glorious Highsec Revolutionary Crusade has finished bringing all of nullsec to its knees with our Autocannon Shield Coercer and Pulse Laser Armor Brawling Blackbird fleets of justice.

Once I have used up the will of highsec to save null, only then may you recruit the leftovers, until then, I refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of your movement.

1. You should probably play a different game if a relaxing activity needs to involve 0 risk. They do exist. Otherwise, relax away but you'll lose some ships doing it.

2. Bingo! That's my favorite square!

3. Scammers do work for their money. Scams are work. Enforcing the Code does not turn a profit for most agents. Agents without any isk can have lost ships reimbursed by James. Agents with their own sources of wealth can opt to spend that wealth on the entertainment that hunting mining barges brings, but the widespread Code enforcement that this thread is all about doesn't pay well.

4. Yeah. A miner once told my boss he had friends in larger alliances than mine. It failed to offer the miner much in the way of negotiating power. If a player had powerful nullsec friends they would likely spend a good bit of time out there playing with them. It can be a lot of fun.

5. There will always be ships to buy. If everyone stopped mining tomorrow and forever, the people who can and do make the rules of the game would alter them so that people always have ships to buy. The possibilities are endless.

6. This is not about isk. Its about fun. Your fun and ours. The moment isk becomes more important than fun its serisouly time to think about moving on.

7. Eve isn't a twitch combat game like an fps. Small-scale Eve battles are usually won before they are fought. Its a game of preparation and the ability to control the terms of the battle. This sort of thing really doesn't need to be noble to be entertaining, which is what people should really be after.

8. I don't need to be everywhere at once. I just need to be at the location of the barge I am hunting right now. One day it may be your barge. That's obviously still a problem for you when multiplied times each agent, or else you wouldn't be here making this thread.

9. You'd be shocked how few bother to do so. I base out of two systems, and still see a lot of repeat offenders.

10. Thats another bingo square! I'll assume you were not comparing us to the Vichy French.

11. Its a video game where you can believe in whatever you want. If I were to take the words of some of the miners I have spoken with in Eve as an indicator of what they believe in, I can sadly say that homophobia, hate and racism are a lot more popular than honor.

12.. I'd like to see an Eve where the risk is present and by design to the point where all reward has appropriate risk. Then, Eve wouldn't need a New Order. The way it stands now, CCP says 'well, we designed a game where you can mine, but others may be able to stop you if you don't take the steps needed to protect yourself' That risk is not guaranteed by design. It needs a movement like the New Order to ensure that it exists and is widespread.

This final point is a very important one, because I think we both want the same thing. An Eve where the New Order doesn't (have to) exist. The problem is that game mechanics over the past couple of years have been straying in the direction of making it harder and harder for players to provide the element of risk the game needs. People are increasingly having consequences for their own choices being designed out of the game. The removal of Can Flipping is the one that really steamed me and pushed me into this style of play. Maybe one day Eve won't need an organized group to balance risk and rewards and force player choices to actually mean something, but for now, it certainly does.

No, for unlike George Washington you never rocked an awesome Wig/Hat combo whilest fighting in the British army in 1752.

On a slightly more practical point I think guys like CODE are a necessary part of highsec, to remind the carebears that they are not and never will be 100% safe.

However much they may want to be.

I lol'd, have a like and a relevant gif