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3rd Party Services Other than Chribba and Darknesss

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#21 - 2015-02-18 14:10:15 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:


Trust isn't built by requiring deposits from people. What you are describing is a foundation for distrust.






I just figure if you can grab the balls in your hand, the other guy will do as you say until you let go. It works for banking, after all.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2015-02-18 14:14:34 UTC

In RL it takes a bit more effort than a few clicks to create an alternate identity. In EVE it is trivial to do so.

You also can't multibox in RL.

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ISD Ezwal
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ISD Alliance
#23 - 2015-02-18 14:44:57 UTC
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#24 - 2015-02-18 19:51:35 UTC
Myriad Blaze wrote:
Nynali Kurelem wrote:
Are there any other trusted 3rd party services other than Chribba and Darknesss people would recommend? Are they worth using or are you more likely just to get scammed?

There are some others:

Vaerah Vahrokha (not sure if he does supers, though)
Grendell
Fedaykin055


Confirming I got asked several times to deal with Supers but I prefer doing what i am good at: market / business oriented services.

One does not become a safe Super 3rd party service in a day. You need to be trusted (not a problem) but then you need to know how to "move around" where these deals are done, to know the 1000 tricks (I know several but not all) people shall do to screw a Super trade over and generally to be respected by the parties involved.

On the other side, you don't become a safe Business / market related 3rd party service in a day either: large collaterals love to do all sort of funny things to those who hold them and don't know some actuarial and market analysis are really exposed to sensible risk.

So... each one to his best specialty Big smile

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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
#25 - 2015-02-18 20:11:15 UTC
To clear things up I do still offer 3rd party services, but all my appointments have to be made by eve-mail as I don't log Grendell in that much.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#26 - 2015-02-18 23:19:57 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:

In RL it takes a bit more effort than a few clicks to create an alternate identity. In EVE it is trivial to do so.

You also can't multibox in RL.




It's not quite that trivial to make a false identity that holds up to a quick chat on voice comms. It is, however, easier than IRL.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#27 - 2015-02-19 03:23:25 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Sibyyl wrote:

In RL it takes a bit more effort than a few clicks to create an alternate identity. In EVE it is trivial to do so.

You also can't multibox in RL.




It's not quite that trivial to make a false identity that holds up to a quick chat on voice comms. It is, however, easier than IRL.



The concepts shown don't even apply in practice,

Chribba (or any other trusted person) is not going to put his name at stake in hope that other guy holds up to a flawless behavior.

Plus, being honest is not all what a 3rd party is about.


Chribba and the other trusted guys are respected and appreciated because they add good manners, high competency, experience. Somebody trying to "proxy" trust with a deposit is not automatically guaranteed being capable or nice.

What happens if a "secured by Chribba" newbie 3rd party guy results being an utter ineducate, ignorant guy who forgets appointments, causes a Super to be bounced out of a POS shield or any other bad thing?

I tell you what happens. The customers of this dude SHALL call Chribba in cause and even if Chribba would perfectly indemnify any trouble caused, he'd still be tarnished by the very event happening.

Even if everything went smoothly, people would just think: "so what, the guy is employing Chribba's reputation as fuel for his ability to attract customers". The day that guy stops his deal with Chribba, he'd immediately stop being trusted.

No, it's too risky to become a "fourth party".

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Angelica Everstar
#28 - 2015-02-19 03:41:18 UTC
I too once wanted to be a 3rd party.
For the girls, fame and money.

But that was many years ago, I have gotten a lot wiser since.

Nowadays I have settled for doing some small bonds, once in a while.
And having great respect for those that have earned that level of trust, and is willing to put in all that work.

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