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Jenshae Chiroptera
#1 - 2015-02-09 03:03:35 UTC
Just a small thing that I found interesting and came across today:

Genetically speaking, in the context of the cuckoo factor and cuckolding; altruism for a twin may not be the best evolutionary decision. (Decision in the unconscious calculation).

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#2 - 2015-02-10 19:50:43 UTC
Therefore, it is possible that the primal human emotion uncontrollable, irrational, tormenting, raging jealousy developed, to prevent most individuals from even having the mental faculties to make that altruistic decision.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#3 - 2015-02-10 19:58:49 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Therefore, it is possible that the primal human emotion uncontrollable, irrational, tormenting, raging jealousy developed, to prevent most individuals from even having the mental faculties to make that altruistic decision.
Me, us and them, maybe?

I also found the following argument interesting (adapted heaily):
Quote:
There are three things to control populations famine, plague and war or if we are lucky, birth control.

Trying to improve food production, much like modern medicine only alleviates the problem for a short time but in the long term such solutions only continue to fuel the exploding popultations.
Sadly, eugenics has been heavily tar brushed along with genocide.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#4 - 2015-02-10 21:47:26 UTC
If only our walking catfish ancestors had had eugenetics, they could have shut down all mutations and kept this whole human thing from getting so out of hand. ::sigh::
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#5 - 2015-02-10 23:07:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Therefore, it is possible that the primal human emotion uncontrollable, irrational, tormenting, raging jealousy developed, to prevent most individuals from even having the mental faculties to make that altruistic decision.

Evolution is propelled by change, if the society is changing, peoples and their emotional patterns will have to change also thru generations, or they will become obsolete and dead, without offspring.
Something Random
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-02-10 23:25:57 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Sadly, eugenics has been heavily tar brushed along with genocide.


Quoting because i can - im not sure where to go from here though

"caught on fire a little bit, just a little."

"Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangs all here!"

I love Science, it gives me a Hadron.

Badel Jramodarr
#7 - 2015-02-10 23:31:24 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Just a small thing that I found interesting and came across today:

Genetically speaking, in the context of the cuckoo factor and cuckolding; altruism for a twin may not be the best evolutionary decision. (Decision in the unconscious calculation).

Two can achieve more than one.
Altruism still survives because it produces a far greater result in the long term.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#8 - 2015-02-11 00:56:14 UTC
Badel Jramodarr wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Just a small thing that I found interesting and came across today:

Genetically speaking, in the context of the cuckoo factor and cuckolding; altruism for a twin may not be the best evolutionary decision. (Decision in the unconscious calculation).

Two can achieve more than one.
Altruism still survives because it produces a far greater result in the long term.
It was not stated as an absolute. The logic would normally stand that a twin surviving is just as good as you surviving.
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Therefore, it is possible that the primal human emotion uncontrollable, irrational, tormenting, raging jealousy developed, to prevent most individuals from even having the mental faculties to make that altruistic decision.

Evolution is propelled by change, if the society is changing, peoples and their emotional patterns will have to change also thru generations, or they will become obsolete and dead, without offspring.
If we believe in evolution why do we ensure that the dim and feeble not only live but also breed?

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#9 - 2015-02-11 01:11:12 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
If we believe in evolution why do we ensure that the dim and feeble not only live but also breed?

It seems to have worked out so far. Some of the dim ones might have been tougher than others. And some of the feeble ones might have been less dim than the others. --Recent studies---* suggest that most humans lean toward either muscle or phrenetic, but not both.

*Source: A The Economist article, citing something from Nature. Don't mean it's true. But it does fit into an old human common sense observation/stereotype.**

**Keep on yanking our chains, we'll play along. Smile
Jenshae Chiroptera
#10 - 2015-02-11 02:41:01 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
... most humans lean toward either muscle or phrenetic, but not both.
Muscular or energetic?
I think if you are talking about muscle and intellect then I happen to know a long list of people with both. (A great many of them do mountain climbing, dancing and martial arts; I guess it requires more neurons than lifting weights). P

I believe that our brains are evolving mostly as a response to other people, perfecting the ability to manipulate each other. However, in terms of our immune systems, eye sight and such, we have artificial crutches that are propelling those genese forward and helping them thrive.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Jenshae Chiroptera
#11 - 2015-02-17 18:09:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5AunfmI8bs&t=2h40m

Tin foil hat on - the challenges to net neutrality, the enforcement of copy right protection ... (parallels not saying this is hidden solid truths)

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#12 - 2015-02-18 02:28:38 UTC
Net neutrality is a test of the idea of Equality vs. Freedom. "Socialists" would say people should have the same share, no matter what their degree of personal power is. They shouldn't be oppressed by big players with more money/power. "Capitalists" would say that that's stifling freedom for those that have the initiative to become more powerful and shape their own futures. Coddling the whiners.

Both sides think they're the ones being the rebels defending freedom from oppression. It's an unsolvable dilemma, as yet.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#13 - 2015-02-18 06:47:13 UTC
I think when you look at the rampant capitalism and the way it uses and discards people, I think it is obvious that it is probably not the best solution.
I advocate for a Technocratic Meritocracy with Socialistic tendencies.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Badel Jramodarr
#14 - 2015-02-18 11:16:01 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:

I believe that our brains are evolving mostly as a response to other people, perfecting the ability to manipulate each other.

Our brains don't need to evolve to do this, it is made to do it already. It's part of a learning curve we go through in life.
Manipulation is the first thing we learn. The first time we learn it is when we cried as babies to get the attention of our parents.
First you learn to manipulate, then you learn there is no need for manipulation to get what you need.
Lying is another interesting one, somewhat related. For a child, lying is a sign of intelligence at a young age, it shows brain development, the next step is learning how to get what you need without lying.

...but people have to choose to learn the next step on their own.



Hence trolling is childish behaviour
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#15 - 2015-02-18 12:28:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
I think when you look at the rampant capitalism and the way it uses and discards people, I think it is obvious that it is probably not the best solution.
I advocate for a Technocratic Meritocracy with Socialistic tendencies.


Well, how kindly of you, you will start giving more than you are able to take in no time. Lol
It starts with tendencies.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#16 - 2015-02-18 17:06:23 UTC
Badel Jramodarr wrote:
The first time we learn it is when we cried as babies to get the attention of our parents.
Taken my perfect example. However, there are strong indications that as our brain masses increase so does the complexity of our society and yes, there is always some form of manipulation.

Leading by example is a way to manipulate people.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Kellie Dusette
Division 13
#17 - 2015-02-18 19:01:15 UTC
All sound very many much too complicated for a Kellie.

Have a little brain. All of a Kellie stop grow for many much year ago.



jason hill
Red vs Blue Flight Academy
#18 - 2015-02-18 19:20:39 UTC
its all bollox !
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#19 - 2015-02-19 00:56:17 UTC
jason hill wrote:
its all bollox !

Big smile Jason and the Buddha are in perfect agreement. Actually Jason is our resident Buddha.
Badel Jramodarr
#20 - 2015-02-19 01:44:02 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Leading by example is a way to manipulate people.
Lol That's just pure cynicism.

Leading by example requires no manipulation at all.
The person leading by example only has to do what they do, requires no mental effort on their part.
This is a prime example of not needing to manipulate.
If you show merit in your actions, people will mimic and follow.


Your overall replies in this thread are half thought ideas at best. You are either trolling or bored.
Go hug someone for more than 30 seconds.... and get manipulated





Kellie Dusette wrote:
All sound very many much too complicated for a Kellie.

Have a little brain. All of a Kellie stop grow for many much year ago.

You have a big heart, all that matters... now come here and let me manipulate you *hugs*
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