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3rd Party Services Other than Chribba and Darknesss

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Nynali Kurelem
Republic Development Solutions
#1 - 2015-02-18 03:14:31 UTC
Are there any other trusted 3rd party services other than Chribba and Darknesss people would recommend? Are they worth using or are you more likely just to get scammed?
Kousaka Otsu Shigure
#2 - 2015-02-18 03:30:40 UTC
Why would you trust your assets to people with no reputation?

These guys have built up their good reputation in handling asset exchange so that you can trust their long history of transactions (with different kinds of people) as proof.

Just as you can view the long post histories of the regulars in GD.. hah.

Archiver, Software Developer and Data Slave

Current Project Status: What can I make with these minerals?

Juan Mileghere
The Corporate Raiders
Safety.
#3 - 2015-02-18 04:16:21 UTC
I'll take your stuff if you'd like... I'm honest, I will not give a single thing back.
Serene Repose
#4 - 2015-02-18 06:22:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
I always use Chribba's Veldspar Scrubbing Service. What exactly do you need a third-party service FOR?
(Assuming it's not dangerous to ASK.)

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Hrothgar Nilsson
#5 - 2015-02-18 06:25:02 UTC
You might get a better answer if you'd posted this in the Market Discussions forum.
Kousaka Otsu Shigure
#6 - 2015-02-18 06:37:43 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
I always use Chribba's Veldspar Scrubbing Service. What exactly do you need a third-party service FOR?
(Assuming it's not dangerous to ASK.)


Posting history says an Avatar.

Archiver, Software Developer and Data Slave

Current Project Status: What can I make with these minerals?

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#7 - 2015-02-18 07:45:00 UTC
As an official Agent of The New Order I am the woman you are looking for. As you may know the New Order of Highsec is the most trusted organisation in todays Highsec, which is the richest and most populated area of New Eden.

Please don't hesitate to contact me or any other New Order Agent in game if you need a trusted third-party. Our fees will depend on the ISK amount and the risk involved with the transaction, but we are always willing to negotiate.

Regards
Agent Ima Wreckyou
Trusted Knight of the New Order of Highsec
* In James 315 we trust *
Reiisha
#8 - 2015-02-18 07:55:34 UTC
Kousaka Otsu Shigure wrote:
Why would you trust your assets to people with no reputation?

These guys have built up their good reputation in handling asset exchange so that you can trust their long history of transactions (with different kinds of people) as proof.

Just as you can view the long post histories of the regulars in GD.. hah.


People don't start out with a good reputation... Chribba had years of 'community service' behind him which generated massive amounts of good will for example. If he wasn't known for that people probably wouldn't be trusting him this much.

I'd love to do this myself, but how do i convince complete strangers to trust me with that kind of cash? I can only give my word on that. I could point to the fact that i've never scammed anyone in all my time in this game, but is that enough?

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...

Kousaka Otsu Shigure
#9 - 2015-02-18 08:15:18 UTC
Reiisha wrote:
Kousaka Otsu Shigure wrote:
Why would you trust your assets to people with no reputation?

These guys have built up their good reputation in handling asset exchange so that you can trust their long history of transactions (with different kinds of people) as proof.

Just as you can view the long post histories of the regulars in GD.. hah.


People don't start out with a good reputation... Chribba had years of 'community service' behind him which generated massive amounts of good will for example. If he wasn't known for that people probably wouldn't be trusting him this much.

I'd love to do this myself, but how do i convince complete strangers to trust me with that kind of cash? I can only give my word on that. I could point to the fact that i've never scammed anyone in all my time in this game, but is that enough?


Haha, its funny how you mention 'years of community service' and then ask how to convince others..

Archiver, Software Developer and Data Slave

Current Project Status: What can I make with these minerals?

Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#10 - 2015-02-18 08:17:12 UTC
Darkness who?
flakeys
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-02-18 08:38:08 UTC
Grendell used to third party a lot and was in the ranks of darknesss and chribba but unsure if he still does it.I know Vaerah Vahrokha also did some third partying but then in regards to 'smaller amounts' but then that depends on what you would see as being 'a small amount' .


Can recommend both highly but in eve there is no such thing as a 100% security and yes chribbs that also inclused you Blink.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd
Nulli Secunda
#12 - 2015-02-18 08:44:31 UTC
Nynali Kurelem wrote:
Are there any other trusted 3rd party services other than Chribba and Darknesss people would recommend? Are they worth using or are you more likely just to get scammed?

There are some others:

Vaerah Vahrokha (not sure if he does supers, though)
Grendell
Fedaykin055
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#13 - 2015-02-18 08:55:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Chribba
I can only recommend you do some research of the others that you may look into using to try and secure yourself from getting scammed.

A good article about becoming one, and possibly a way for you to check if said 3rd party indeed have put in the work can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=358639

Don't get rushed into things, there will always be more ships to buy and I can guarantee you that having to take a step back and maybe even look for a new seller for a few days is more worth it than losing all your ISK.

And for obvious reasons I cannot vouch for anyone else (regardless of what someone would say) simply because they are not under my control.

/c

★★★ Secure 3rd party service ★★★

Visit my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar'

Twitter @ChribbaVeldspar

Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2015-02-18 08:55:54 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
As an official Agent of The New Order I am the woman you are looking for. As you may know the New Order of Highsec is the most trusted organisation in todays Highsec, which is the richest and most populated area of New Eden.

Please don't hesitate to contact me or any other New Order Agent in game if you need a trusted third-party. Our fees will depend on the ISK amount and the risk involved with the transaction, but we are always willing to negotiate.

Regards
Agent Ima Wreckyou
Trusted Knight of the New Order of Highsec
* In James 315 we trust *


think she wants to move an avatar not a catalyst

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Nynali Kurelem
Republic Development Solutions
#15 - 2015-02-18 10:11:26 UTC
I've always used Chribba. He's the only 3rd party I've ever used for super capital trades.

Maybe I'm paranoid, but I really don't feel like I can trust anyone (except for a select few players) in EVE.

Some sellers have pressured me to use their "trusted" 3rd parties and or friends and I always assume it's just a scam.

Based on my own research I did see Fedaykin055. He looks like an emerging 3rd party. He's done a lot of work for N3 and his 3rd party thread seems to have a lot of positive reviews from them, but he doesn't seem to have done a lot of public work yet. Anyone have dealings with him?
Reiisha
#16 - 2015-02-18 10:15:16 UTC
Kousaka Otsu Shigure wrote:
Reiisha wrote:
Kousaka Otsu Shigure wrote:
Why would you trust your assets to people with no reputation?

These guys have built up their good reputation in handling asset exchange so that you can trust their long history of transactions (with different kinds of people) as proof.

Just as you can view the long post histories of the regulars in GD.. hah.


People don't start out with a good reputation... Chribba had years of 'community service' behind him which generated massive amounts of good will for example. If he wasn't known for that people probably wouldn't be trusting him this much.

I'd love to do this myself, but how do i convince complete strangers to trust me with that kind of cash? I can only give my word on that. I could point to the fact that i've never scammed anyone in all my time in this game, but is that enough?


Haha, its funny how you mention 'years of community service' and then ask how to convince others..


I just mean, you don't just start up a 3rd party service straight away without having done that 'years of reputation building' thing. I haven't done it and honestly i'm not sure where i would start on something like that, or whether i even have the time or drive for it. Hence i'm not doing a 3rd party service. ;p

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...

Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#17 - 2015-02-18 12:33:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Ptraci
Chribba wrote:


And for obvious reasons I cannot vouch for anyone else (regardless of what someone would say) simply because they are not under my control.

/c


But you could, you know. Using your unique position you could delegate some of the work by franchising your third party services quite easily:

1. Require a deposit from the person to be endorsed of say twice what a fitted titan is worth and hold it in escrow..
2. Once said deposit is received by you, you can give the endorsement.
3. Once both parties report satisfaction with the transaction, you release the funds back to the franchisee.

That way moving money around is less time consuming for you, someone else can do the actual negotiation, POS set up, etc, more people can transfer capitals relatively safely, and the trusted party won't have any financial incentive to rip anyone off otherwise they lose twice the value of a titan. Your reputation is preserved because if anything goes wrong you can reimburse both parties directly with the escrow funds. It could work - just sayin'.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#18 - 2015-02-18 12:53:45 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Chribba wrote:


And for obvious reasons I cannot vouch for anyone else (regardless of what someone would say) simply because they are not under my control.

/c


But you could, you know. Using your unique position you could delegate some of the work by franchising your third party services quite easily:

1. Require a deposit from the person to be endorsed of say twice what a fitted titan is worth and hold it in escrow..
2. Once said deposit is received by you, you can give the endorsement.
3. Once both parties report satisfaction with the transaction, you release the funds back to the franchisee.

That way moving money around is less time consuming for you, someone else can do the actual negotiation, POS set up, etc, more people can transfer capitals relatively safely, and the trusted party won't have any financial incentive to rip anyone off otherwise they lose twice the value of a titan. Your reputation is preserved because if anything goes wrong you can reimburse both parties directly with the escrow funds. It could work - just sayin'.

I get many requests from pilots who want to act as a 3rd party by putting a deposit with me. I kindly decline all of them, because it's about the fact that I have no control over if they scam or not - not that the buyer/seller is covered. So regardless if I could pay a victim back, the fact that they got scammed is the problem.

So while I understand how you think, it doesn't prevent the scamming from happening, which is what my goal is to prevent Smile

/c

★★★ Secure 3rd party service ★★★

Visit my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar'

Twitter @ChribbaVeldspar

flakeys
Doomheim
#19 - 2015-02-18 13:01:22 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
Ptraci wrote:
Chribba wrote:


And for obvious reasons I cannot vouch for anyone else (regardless of what someone would say) simply because they are not under my control.

/c


But you could, you know. Using your unique position you could delegate some of the work by franchising your third party services quite easily:

1. Require a deposit from the person to be endorsed of say twice what a fitted titan is worth and hold it in escrow..
2. Once said deposit is received by you, you can give the endorsement.
3. Once both parties report satisfaction with the transaction, you release the funds back to the franchisee.

That way moving money around is less time consuming for you, someone else can do the actual negotiation, POS set up, etc, more people can transfer capitals relatively safely, and the trusted party won't have any financial incentive to rip anyone off otherwise they lose twice the value of a titan. Your reputation is preserved because if anything goes wrong you can reimburse both parties directly with the escrow funds. It could work - just sayin'.



Wich would make him a fourth party not a third making the chance of **** hitting the fence even higher.Say he holds collateral from the third party to cover two titans.All the other guy needs to do then is sell off 3 titans on different alts and arrange them to be on the same day having his main who is the third party acting/entering to 'secure the deal' making his gains off of it one titan before word reaches chribba.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2015-02-18 13:59:23 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Chribba wrote:


And for obvious reasons I cannot vouch for anyone else (regardless of what someone would say) simply because they are not under my control.

/c


But you could, you know. Using your unique position you could delegate some of the work by franchising your third party services quite easily:

1. Require a deposit from the person to be endorsed of say twice what a fitted titan is worth and hold it in escrow..
2. Once said deposit is received by you, you can give the endorsement.
3. Once both parties report satisfaction with the transaction, you release the funds back to the franchisee.

That way moving money around is less time consuming for you, someone else can do the actual negotiation, POS set up, etc, more people can transfer capitals relatively safely, and the trusted party won't have any financial incentive to rip anyone off otherwise they lose twice the value of a titan. Your reputation is preserved because if anything goes wrong you can reimburse both parties directly with the escrow funds. It could work - just sayin'.


Trust isn't built by requiring deposits from people. What you are describing is a foundation for distrust.



Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.

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