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Svipul - Arty blap machine?
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Mary Killigrew
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2015-02-17 08:44:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Mary Killigrew
Hoo,

Seeing as the ship will have a bonus to optimal innately and tracking in Sharpshooter mode... Is the arty setup the only one viable? Blink

Now, I haven't used small arties in over 5 years - what is the optimal on unbonused ships for 280mm with Tremor and EMP? No access to EFT/Eve atm. Oops

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#2 - 2015-02-17 15:06:15 UTC
Then wait until you have access again and hop on SiSi and take it out for a spin. I am not sure that many will be available today anyway.

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Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2015-02-17 17:02:51 UTC
Just messing around with Osmium netted me this:

[Svipul, 10MN]
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Internal Force Field Array I

10MN Afterburner II
Warp Disruptor II
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 50
'Copasetic' Particle Field Acceleration

250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
[empty high slot]

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Projectile Locus Coordinator I
Small Ancillary Current Router II

Just a transposition of the normal 10MN Confessor fit. Needs a 3% CPU implant. Probably terrible.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-02-17 19:02:24 UTC
svipul isn't good with 10mn since it's agility is actually lower than the confessor.

Sticking a 10mn might make it go fast but the lack of turn speed is going to make it unusable with that much mass addition.

I'm thinking dual prop web scram

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Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-02-17 20:45:19 UTC
If you're going to fight long range there probably isn't much of a reason to use it over a Stabber
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-02-17 21:00:11 UTC
small artillery isn't really "long range" it's mid range at best and works very well in scram kiting.

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Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-02-18 14:38:05 UTC
Yeah sorry, you're right, small arties are "mid-range" not long range

And yeah small arties are also definitely good for scram range fighting if used properly

Still I don't know that I would use this Svipul over a Stabber. It's probably about ten times the price and can realistically perform almost the same role in any given situation

Maybe once the price goes down, but I'm sure lots will wanna fly it just for the epeen factor.
M'pact
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-02-18 18:27:19 UTC
Ares Desideratus wrote:
...,but I'm sure lots will wanna fly it just for the epeen factor.

I've seen how effective the Confessor is in our nightly fleets, but I don't like the Confessor or its modes.

The Svipul, on the other hand, is freaking awesome.

I don't care that they will be expensive for a while. My killboard efficiency might drop a bit when I lose a few, but that's not what I'm about.

I want to pilot the Winmatar tactical destroyer, because vertical.

I'm looking forward to seeing what CCP comes up with for the Caldari and Gallente tactical destroyers too.

When I finally do make an impact on this universe, it will reverberate across the entirety of it, and no one will be able to truthfully claim they don't know me. - -

Until then, I'll just sit quietly over here, minding my own business...
Mary Killigrew
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-02-19 04:06:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Mary Killigrew
A few I've come up with:

Quote:
[Svipul, New Setup 1 copy 2]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Internal Force Field Array I

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Medium Shield Extender II
Warp Disruptor II

280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S
[empty high slot]

Small Core Defense Field Extender II
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Ancillary Current Router I


Prop mode: 8.7k EHP, Range 23+11 km, 3244/4536 m/s, 211 deeps, 1323 alpha.

Quote:
[Svipul, New Setup 1]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Internal Force Field Array I

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Warp Disruptor II

280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S
[empty high slot]

Small Projectile Locus Coordinator II
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Ancillary Current Router I


Prop: 7.7k EHP range 29+13 km, 2963/4163 m/s, DPS & alpha the same.

Might work out a 10MN version later. Pirate
M'pact
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-02-20 18:06:05 UTC
I've got seven fits in Pyfa for the Svipul so far, and I've already bought 20 hulls. Not at home at the moment, so I can't post 'em up yet.

With the armor and shield resist bonuses in Defense mode, I've made three dual-rep (MASB+SAAR) fits to take advantage. It's the only ship I've ever done that with. Who knows ... they might actually work.

I do have to say I like the AC fits better. I've always preferred knife-range combat.

When I finally do make an impact on this universe, it will reverberate across the entirety of it, and no one will be able to truthfully claim they don't know me. - -

Until then, I'll just sit quietly over here, minding my own business...
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-02-20 19:41:00 UTC
Dual rep may seem like a good idea but it will pigeonhole you into using defensive mode pretty much 100% of the time and you lose out on the other two very power switches.

[Svipul, test]
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

1MN Afterburner II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP S
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket

Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Anti-Explosive Pump II
Small Anti-Kinetic Pump II



this is the one I'm using atm and the basis is that you stay in prop mode most of the time to scram kite and use sharpshooter mode when something is starting to get under guns.

With prop mode a regular 1mn AB will make you go as fast as most scram kiter frigates and obviously will have a large range advantage as well.

making the scram shiny will exponentially increase your efficiency as well since it means other ships will be able to apply even less damage since you can keep them further away.

The more popular kitey ships can be run down with MWD in prop mode as well, it's definitely a good boat so far.

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