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Titan Doomsday any Capital on Undock in Lowsec. Free Kills

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Luigi Palmieri
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-02-15 18:05:25 UTC
So you have a titan and it's sitting in a pos somewhere wasting away. Why not get some Billion Isk free kills with it. All you need is a cloaked ship off the undock of a lowsec station that has capital travel. You sit there until a JF or something undocks. Soon as it starts to warp somewhere cyno in the Titan lock it up doomsday! You can kill it before it can redock in 1 shot. No bubbles in lowsec so enjoy the free kills.

Dread Operative
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#2 - 2015-02-15 18:28:40 UTC
Someone got DDed.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-02-15 22:27:31 UTC
Luigi Palmieri wrote:
If the pilot is drunk, you can kill it before it can redock in 1 shot.
FTFY

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MonkeyBusiness Thiesant
Pandemic Unicorns
#4 - 2015-02-16 00:24:34 UTC  |  Edited by: MonkeyBusiness Thiesant
Wouldn't it be better to get the DD in immediately after undock, while it has a session timer? Anyone tried to see if that's possible within the time?
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-02-16 07:38:42 UTC
MonkeyBusiness Thiesant wrote:
Wouldn't it be better to get the DD in immediately after undock, while it has a session timer? Anyone tried to see if that's possible within the time?
Possibly, if the JF pilot is silly enough to break invulnerability before the session timer ends.

Then again, there are less expensive ways to kill a silly JF pilot.

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Trey Kutoi
Furries Ruin Everything
#6 - 2015-02-16 11:54:10 UTC
isnt capital warpspeed already arse?
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-02-16 17:29:17 UTC
can a titan lock a freighter in the session change timer even?
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#8 - 2015-02-16 17:59:39 UTC
You're not going to find many pilots that want to risk a Titan for a freighter kill...
You will however, find many alliances willing to bait that Titan to make 1 stupid move. Just 1.
Voyager Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-02-16 21:19:20 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
can a titan lock a freighter in the session change timer even?


No, unless the JF decided to align immediately instead of ctrl+spacing and waiting out their timer. Even then, the margin to actually light the cyno, jump the titan, load grid, target the JF, and fire the Doomsday is going to be pretty narrow unless the pilot is as stupid as the OP.
DJ FunkyBacon
Rabid Ninja Space Monkey Inc.
Monkeys with Guns.
#10 - 2015-02-17 15:29:36 UTC
You know insta warps work for caps too right? Also, you've got something around 30 seconds of invulnerability as long as you don't activate a mod or align somewhere first, plenty of time to jump out.

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Agent Unknown
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-02-17 18:47:05 UTC
Ctrl+spacebar to stop (doesn't break the invulnerability timer IIRC), jump out. Pretty easy...
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-02-17 22:00:34 UTC
DJ FunkyBacon wrote:
You know insta warps work for caps too right? Also, you've got something around 30 seconds of invulnerability as long as you don't activate a mod or align somewhere first, plenty of time to jump out.
Are you sure insta warping a JF 1,000 km away form the docking ring is a good idea?

Maybe with a webbing alt waiting for you to land, but still...

I'd stick to the tried-and-tested Undock-ctrl-space-wait session timer-align to highsec gate with your mouse pointer on the dock button-warp when fully aligned or re-dock if you smell something fishy.

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Trey Kutoi
Furries Ruin Everything
#13 - 2015-02-17 22:05:39 UTC
DJ FunkyBacon wrote:
You know insta warps work for caps too right? Also, you've got something around 30 seconds of invulnerability as long as you don't activate a mod or align somewhere first, plenty of time to jump out.



that better be one darn perfect insta undock
Luigi Palmieri
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2015-02-18 00:28:24 UTC
To the people who think it's not possible or only successful if the target pilot fails let me assure you it's very easy. By the time your titan appears on grid the pilot has slim to none chance of avoiding it. Not every cap pilot has a second cyno on standby when they are jumping. So pressing control space and then jumping out takes awhile and will have slim chance of success. Likewise, trying to stop warp and waiting to redock takes time. Between game lag and just the normal randomness of docking the titan can lock up the cap and insta pop it immediately. It's very easy to do and anyone who doubts it's success is trying to rationalize it too much. Jump in pop jump out. Or you can let your titan sit in a pos doing nothing forever. Get out there and have some fun with it.
Degnar Oskold
Moira.
Villore Accords
#15 - 2015-02-18 00:47:28 UTC
Luigi Palmieri wrote:
Jump in pop jump out.


Impossible. Jump fatigue means your precious Titan will be sitting in space for a couple of minutes, waiting for the system's HIC pilots to undock and tackle it.
Luigi Palmieri
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2015-02-18 01:09:43 UTC
Degnar Oskold wrote:
Luigi Palmieri wrote:
Jump in pop jump out.


Impossible. Jump fatigue means your precious Titan will be sitting in space for a couple of minutes, waiting for the system's HIC pilots to undock and tackle it.



These logistic systems have nobody in them. Most of the time it's just you and the guy you are killing. Plus there are ways to get the titan safe quickly. It's ok if you are scared. Not everyone has the courage to use their titans like this.
Voyager Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2015-02-18 01:29:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Voyager Arran
When undocking, hit ctrl+space to stop your ship and wait out your session change timer. You cannot be targeted during this time, so the only danger comes from someone undocking a bumping ship immediately behind you. This is a threat and is one way of killing JFs in lowsec, but you don't need a Titan to dunk someone who isn't inside a docking radius.

After your session change timer ends, you will be able to immediately dock at any time, so it is now safe to begin aligning to your outgate. If you spot something fishy while you are aligning, such as a neutral ship lighting a cyno off your station or a Titan jumping through said cyno, immediately ctrl+space and dock again. Unless you are operating your JF out of kickouts or have the reaction times of a dead animal you will be docked before the Titan is even finished loading grid.


Memorize the keyboard shortcuts for these actions to make sure you are performing them quickly. If you are trying to right click your capacitor to stop yourself and then right click in space to select your station it might explain why you are dying in entirely avoidable situations.

EDIT: to provide a specific example, a Ragnarok with a full rack of overheated Sensor Boosters could lock you in a bit under two seconds (so two server ticks), but in the time it takes him online that many modules you should already be docked.
Saya Lostakin
100mn Snooze
#18 - 2015-02-18 03:36:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Saya Lostakin
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#19 - 2015-02-18 06:09:14 UTC
I totally agree with you Luigi, and I'm here to tell you,
I'm not scared!
I WILL TOTALLY FACKING DO THIS!!!

Now give me the keys to your Titan and go light me up a cyno somewhere.


Voyager Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2015-02-18 19:29:25 UTC


Given that the OP doesn't have any JF losses on his corp KB (of course I checked) I'm considering the possibility that he's some elitePvP lowsec alt acting dumb in an attempt to bait out greedy Titan Pilots.
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