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Unidentified Structures Uncloaked, Sightings of "Drifters"

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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#21 - 2015-02-17 18:16:39 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
So basically, a god damn Sleeper AI, or something of that nature, got a whole lot of body parts, with which to begin a reign of terror against the cluster.

And Here We Are.


oh.
Jennifer Starfall
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#22 - 2015-02-17 18:19:32 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
So basically, a god damn Sleeper AI, or something of that nature, got a whole lot of body parts, with which to begin a reign of terror against the cluster.

And Here We Are.


Let's not jump to conclusions too quickly, Dr. Valate.

It does present itself as an interesting hypothesis, though.

Jennifer Starfall

Fifth Seyllin Conference

Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#23 - 2015-02-17 18:24:17 UTC
Jennifer Starfall wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
So basically, a god damn Sleeper AI, or something of that nature, got a whole lot of body parts, with which to begin a reign of terror against the cluster.

And Here We Are.


Let's not jump to conclusions too quickly, Dr. Valate.

It does present itself as an interesting hypothesis, though.


As one of the clusters leading experts on the subject of god damn AIs inflicting reigns of terror, I agree that the evidence is not yet conclusive, but it does kind of point in the same direction.

If it looks like a sheep, baas like a sheep, has wool like a sheep, then even if it turns out to be a goat, you can see why you thought it was a sheep.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#24 - 2015-02-17 18:26:00 UTC
Jennifer Starfall wrote:
Let's not jump to conclusions too quickly, Dr. Valate.

It does present itself as an interesting hypothesis, though.

That the reconstructed, replicated remains of a Jovian ambassador are invading us.

Um ... absurdity aside, that implies the forces involved (1) needed Jovian biology and (2) didn't already have it.

Or maybe any biology at all?
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#25 - 2015-02-17 18:28:57 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
And the capsuleers, eager for a taste of relevancy, rushed into action without thought and did exactly what was expected.


Well, yes.

Warned them, I did.
Heed me, they did not.
And now, screwed they all are.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.

Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#26 - 2015-02-17 18:38:21 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
And the capsuleers, eager for a taste of relevancy, rushed into action without thought and did exactly what was expected.


Well, yes.

Warned them, I did.
Heed me, they did not.
And now, screwed they all are.


Hey you don't need to tell me, I've been on your side for this whole thing.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#27 - 2015-02-17 18:40:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Okay, if they're the ones that took Tukoss, here's the last word on that:

Tristan Valentina wrote:
Th(is is the first transm)ission I hav(e been able to ma)ke in so(me time. Thi)s is Dr Hil(len Tuk)oss, broa(dcasting on lo)w band eme(rgen)cy FTL – I’m uns(ure of t)he exact fr(equen)cy.

Site On(e is compromi)sed. All sta(ff inv)olved wi(th the Are)k’Jal(aan Pr)oject sho(uld cons)ider it inse(cure an)d should aba(ndon an)y equi(pment the)rein, cons(ider it cont)amin(ated).

(Disre)gard the pre(viou)s commun(ication)s from wh(at ap)pears to be m(y) NeoC(om. The)ir inte(nt )is misdir(ection o)n the p(art of tho)se who ha(ve me res)trained. DT* coope(rated wit)h the(m in )all c(ases.)

I ha(ve attem)pted to ma(ke conta)ct (with Eif)yr & C(o to no av)ail, in or(der to re)lay det(ails of m)y situa(tion). It is my la(st hop)e tha(t this t)ransmissi(on will b)e pick(ed up by t)he FTL networ(k and broa)dcast t(o the perti)nent pl(aces?).

I am cu(rrently held aga)inst my wi(ll, my cap)tors are unkno(wn but from t)he few det(ails of my s)urrou(ndings I hav)e bee(n able to asc)ertain, I am bei(ng he)ld somewh(ere in Anoi)kis. The ava(ilable d)ata tha(t I could ga)ther wo(uld sugg)est some(where in clos)e pro(ximity to a Wolf-Ray)et, given luminos(ity an)d gravity signatures.

It is impe(rative t)he cap(suleer ta)skforce dedica(ted to Arek'Ja)laan contin(ue the)ir work i(n my abs)ence. With(out my pre)sence, t(he pro)ject mus(t conti)nue to adva(nce with re)cent (inform)ation (you've) received.

I beli(eve my cap)tors to be (Sleeper? Sister? Pirate? Jovian?)s, fear(ful of the e)vent (now t)ranspiring, and (are in a st)ate of (pa)nic.

I emp(lore [sic] you) all to continue to further the (aims of the Are)k’Jalaan proj(ect and to con)tinue to wo(rk on a so)lution. (The f)ate of the (pro)ject (is now) in yo(ur ha)nds, and (if the)re is any (chance of communication/my escape?) in future, I (shal/wil)l endea(vour to d)o so.

D(--- - - - -- - )rch (--- - - )m (--- - -- -d)anger I( - - - - -------- - - -)o gr(-- -- -- --- )



*D(o not sea)rch (for )m(e as the d)anger i(s far t)o gr(eat.)* is this what we are working with for the end of the message?


"I believe my captors to be (?????), fearful of the event now transpiring, and are in a state of panic."

Panic ... facing us?

Could that mean that they've put all their power on the field, and they've got no reserves?

This is a final, desperate move?
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#28 - 2015-02-17 18:50:24 UTC
Let's see. If THAT'S true ...

Those structures ... they don't seem like a tool of something with limited resources.

Could they be the primary goal? Old, mothballed facilities the Drifters stashed away for a rainy day?

A way to rebuild diminished forces?
Eojek
Starlight Moly
#29 - 2015-02-17 19:15:47 UTC
If you really really want to destroy a Drifter, have a friend EWF/web/scram the ship into oblivion and swat it with close-range weapons.
Jukko Riis
Doomheim
#30 - 2015-02-17 19:23:30 UTC
Clarification please,


When you use the term "battleship" are you referring t the size class of a drone or are you saying that these are actual crewed battleships?

A.I. Drones are bad enough, but if we're talking an actual race here....

Our lives just got a whole lot more complicated.




Xadiran
Moira.
#31 - 2015-02-17 19:26:48 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:


"I believe my captors to be (?????), fearful of the event now transpiring, and are in a state of panic."

Panic ... facing us?

Could that mean that they've put all their power on the field, and they've got no reserves?

This is a final, desperate move?



I believe it is more likely the panic was due to these 'Drifters', and not us.

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#32 - 2015-02-17 19:31:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Jukko Riis wrote:
Clarification please,


When you use the term "battleship" are you referring t the size class of a drone or are you saying that these are actual crewed battleships?

A.I. Drones are bad enough, but if we're talking an actual race here....

Our lives just got a whole lot more complicated.

Eran Mintor posted this, earlier.

It could maybe be some kind of trick.

If not, it looks like the "complicated" option.


Xadiran wrote:
Aria Jenneth wrote:


"I believe my captors to be (?????), fearful of the event now transpiring, and are in a state of panic."

Panic ... facing us?

Could that mean that they've put all their power on the field, and they've got no reserves?

This is a final, desperate move?



I believe it is more likely the panic was due to these 'Drifters', and not us.



Ah. Could be.

....

Ouch. That makes way too much sense.


Edited to add:

Okay. From that angle, " the e)vent (now t)ranspiring" could be those ... citadels appearing?

Citadels = Drifters coming = time to manufacture ourselves a happy Jovian face?

Um.... I'm not quite parsing how that last one works, even if the Drifters look a bit Jove.


Further edit:

Does the timeline for that line up?
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#33 - 2015-02-17 19:42:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Statement following apparent Drifter engagement here.

Tactical advisory to follow.

Frenjo Borkstar wrote:
Do not attempt to engage unless you have a sufficient fleet of at least 2 cruisers, 2 ECM Frigates and 2 Battleships. Expect to lose at least three of these ships!


Frenjo Borkstar wrote:
... attempt[ed] to initiate peaceful contact... we were greeted with weapons fire, from weapons CONCORD has named 'Lux Kontos' or ... 'Spears of Light'.... I brought back a larger force ... we managed to reduce the vessel's 'double shield' layer to standard shielding, but then, we were greeted with a far superior weapon ... we have named it 'Lux Destructum', or 'The Destroying Light', it is comparable to a modern-day Titan's Doomsday Device, albeit battleship sized.

A Hyperion battleship was destroyed in one volley from this weapon.


Doctor Borkstar reports two Drifter battleships destroyed.
Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#34 - 2015-02-17 19:47:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaret Victorian
Don't know if it has been reported.

I never agressed C-Seekers or these Battleships, if this is relevant. Just 5 minutes ago I tried to poke around the uncloaked Pillar in my pod, try to look completely harmless. This Drifter Battleship just stopped doing what he was doing and started following me at my maximum speed, which was approximately 185 m/s, copying my every move and change of direction, but always staying to my right. As soon as I approached the Uncloaked Pillar, the Battleship warped off.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#35 - 2015-02-17 20:52:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
With all due respect, pilots, act like the gods-damned professionals you're supposed to be.

We have an unknown, newly-arrived and potentially hostile force in the cluster. CONCORD advises pilots to not poke them with a stick. Pilots then poke these forces with a stick, with, in many cases, the predictable result that they get shot in the face. Occasionally, well-coordinated poking results in destroying some of these ships.

Now, yes, that these structures are as large as they are is worrisome. Yes, that these capsuleer pilots appear to be heavily augmented Jove, per the CONCORD description of them, is worrisome. Yes, these battleships are well-armed and -armored, which is also worrisome.

This is not some sort of apocalypse. The world has just gotten a little bit stranger.

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Jayze Severasse
Divided by Zer0
#36 - 2015-02-17 20:57:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Jayze Severasse
I have just discovered "Variant AU-79" seems to keep the sleepers from podding.
I am aware of the new Circadian Seeker behavior and wanted to test the now uncloaked structures.
I went in an Atron and opened fire on the seekers at the structure. They proceeded to destroy my Atron, but did not pod me...They scanned me extensively after blowing up my ship, but never once shot my pod...just scanned it many times b4 warping out.

It would seem my hypothesis on the shiny coating of variant AU-79 may be correct, confirming now with Velator :D

Systems I have found with now uncloaked structure; Ourapheh, Nakugard, and Heydieles
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#37 - 2015-02-17 21:15:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Doctor Borkstar verifies ECM vulnerability.

So far, fighting them is sounding similar to Sleeper ... hunting....

Um. Sorry. Headache.

Uh, anyhow, they're stronger, obviously.

Salvage was "standard Sleeper."

He says it's clearly Sleeper tech, with a Jovian twist, but could that just mean a common root?

Do I remember right that Jovian tech is fullerene-based in the first place?

No confirmation on best weapons to use. Sleepers are vulnerable to EMP weapons; has anyone tried testing damage types?
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#38 - 2015-02-17 21:19:09 UTC
Also: this just seems like a good idea.
Jayze Severasse
Divided by Zer0
#39 - 2015-02-17 21:21:45 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Doctor Borkstar verifies ECM vulnerability.

So far, fighting them is sounding similar to Sleeper ... hunting....

Um. Sorry. Headache.

Uh, anyhow, they're stronger, obviously.

Salvage was "standard Sleeper."

He says it's clearly Sleeper tech, with a Jovian twist, but could that just mean a common root?

Do I remember right that Jovian tech is fullerene-based in the first place?

No confirmation on best weapons to use. Sleepers are vulnerable to EMP weapons; has anyone tried testing damage types?


If they possess omni-resistance and damage (like sleepers), then omni-resistance is needed, but damage doesn't matter (they resist it all the same, pick one)

The Circadian Seeker scan behavior makes me believe that the structures do not belong to them...or the GMO Jovian pilots and sleeper drones are entities operating independently of one another.
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#40 - 2015-02-17 21:31:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Jandice Ymladris
Keep in mind, the Drifter battleships also scan things, with a beam that's identical to the one Seekers use. Also, destroyed Drifters leave behind salvage that is also often found in Sleeper ships, so there seems to be a connection between all three.

As most of you know by now, I ran my own publication on the matter, regarding all these new appearances unveiling in the New Eden Cluster: 'The Jove have returned and they have such sights to show us....'

Wile we received alot of answers to questions, many more new questions have risen as well! Chief among them is: 'Where did the Drifters come from?' and 'What is their goal?'

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