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No, I didn’t. In no way shape or form did any of the arguments I made about hacking characterize what you just said.
But feel free to do some legwork and show me how this is the case.



Man, you really need to carefully read what I’ve said. It’s obvious to me that you are misconstruing what I’ve said for your own personal belief system. Because what I’ve argued is that you guys are hypocrites, not for how you play the game, but for accusing carebears of trying to change the game for their own personal reasons when pro-gankers do the EXACT same thing. I could care less how you play in game, because that was wholly irrelevant to the argument I was making about what you have been accusing people of on these boards.


And where has it gotten any of you? Nowhere. You can choose to sink to other poster’s level, but in the end that makes you no better than your opponent and is also not a valid argument.


Ok. You’ve failed. My enjoyment in the game is wholly independent of this thread or anything you try and do to change the game. Want to know why? Because unlike some of the crazy kills I’ve seen CODE pull (like freighters fitted with a t2 cpu in the low) I don’t play the game badly. (I’ve already stated several times that since this is my main my killboard is easy to check). I adapt to changes as they happen. I don’t blame any of the (very very few) losses I have on anyone but myself. But you know what, I also don’t make assumptions about how people play the game based on their forum posts either. So while you do deserve several warnings for flaming and trolling based on your actions in this thread, I’d be perfectly happy if you had fun playing Eve.

Pfft. Someone else can do that. I sure as hell won't.

Then I'd like to know what in the actual hell you're talking about. Because if you say that the problem is that highsec still matters, but then rampantly oppose any proposed measures to take away some of it's over relevancy, then I have no freaking idea what you are talking about, or what you think is a good path for the game.

As best I can tell, you and I both think that the problem is the same, you're just rejecting that based on who's saying it.

I'd be more concerned about its active tank. It's not like a cap fleet's going to alpha it off the field.

Ooooh. I didn't know that. That makes sense, considering the rules on HiSec caps.

I'd be content just watching the majesty of it all. Plus I could say "I was there" which would be pretty awesome.

Like hunting an endangered species.

ninja brain/edit

/c

No. I'm the last to do that, because my daily life is immersed in the "who is saying what" instead of the substance of what is being said and I get to watch disaster from that. So I'm careful not to do that.

I do not deny that highsec is the cash cow, but you and I come at it from different angles. You are pushing Church of HTFU rhetoric, almost blindly, and I'm trying to point out that the problem is grounded in the suckage of lowsec and nullsec. Highsec is what it is not because CCP wants to coddle the carebears, it's because the game mechanics and other known factors have made it so that low and null suck even for the people who would normally be out there.

I see the gankers as being driven to highsec by the game mechanics just as much as the other players. Predator and prey are on the same island surrounded by sharks - or bad game mechanics.

You would have it that highsec gets nerfed to death. I say highsec still matters not because players want it to, but because that's all there is left after the crappy mechanics have had their way. The solution is to fix the game so that highsec would no longer matter except to noobs and traders. I have already pointed out four things that need to change: gates, targeting, resources, and SOV. Every time I do, you or your ilk shoots it down. Make those changes I proposed and highsec becomes a starter zone, not by some arbitrary mechanic, but because nobody will want to stay there. Don't make those changes yet complain about the end result of not making those changes, and your sincerity if not your reading comprehension falls into doubt.

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