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Ice price decline due to capital ship changes. Give ice more uses?
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Ocih
Space Mermaids
#21 - 2014-11-28 12:39:50 UTC
I've been pestering them to give criminal dog tags a valid use for 5 years, get in line.

And as mentioned, we will see what happens in the new year.
Raviel Oxidans
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-11-28 12:41:45 UTC
I know!

Make ice belts hackable!
AgentMaster
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2015-02-13 17:19:45 UTC
Maybe need all ice miners to stop selling ice, but please "Do not fire blankets to kill fleas". No one think for miners - look theyr ships - look like from stone age Ugh no any improvements for them.
CCP say only good things here but no one say: "Miners will pay for this !... Road to hell is paved with good intentions...

Blessed is the man who has nothing to say and remain silent yet!!
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#24 - 2015-02-13 17:22:58 UTC
There's always those who think when an obscenely over-priced thing (they've been making a fortune from) finally reaches a reasonable price, the price is TOO LOW. Why is that, dyathink? Got me puzzled. No. Really.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#25 - 2015-02-13 17:30:50 UTC
Took me a second to notice the necro, I'm reading this and thinking "WTF do they mean a near year is coming" lol.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#26 - 2015-02-13 19:42:47 UTC
Yup helping with my necromancer powers.. rawr!

Depending on the changes to null and pos' that should be comign Soon(tm) we will most likly see ice prices fall again. Or they could go up, boo knows. interesting times are ahead

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2015-02-13 19:56:36 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Took me a second to notice the necro, I'm reading this and thinking "WTF do they mean a near year is coming" lol.


It took me all the way to my own previous post.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#28 - 2015-02-13 20:04:15 UTC
Grrrrr Player-driven economy!!!!!






Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#29 - 2015-02-13 22:26:20 UTC
Noragli wrote:
With no counter balancing change to keep ice prices stable, prices have dropped significantly with the jump changes. This indicates supply is becoming far greater than demand.

Should changes to ice requirements for POS and or jumping be increased to help counter the reduction in consumption? Or alternatively perhaps new uses for ice products could be introduced?



Spirits, Quafe, and Ice cubes in my hold would help me further define what kind of person I am to whoever destroys my ship

(someone who was probably too drunk to PVP would be the best assumption at that point)

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Memphis Baas
#30 - 2015-02-14 00:37:58 UTC
Instead of increasing demand let's cut supply. We should be forced to defend the ice belts from the evil Drifters and their battleships that can destroy the ice roids with one shot.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#31 - 2015-02-14 00:39:55 UTC
Start seeding ice and roids with Drifters so when the stuff is harvested and the ships "dug up" they be mighty perturbed and then take out the Orca that everybody was mining into.

Oh wait did I let that slip out?

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#32 - 2015-02-14 04:05:40 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
Instead of increasing demand let's cut supply. We should be forced to defend the ice belts from the evil Drifters and their battleships that can destroy the ice roids with one shot.

Only if the highsec ones also drop amazing drifter loot, turning it into highsec belt ratting for uber rewards

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#33 - 2015-02-14 08:34:03 UTC
The skybox is falling!

Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.

I invented Tiericide
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2015-02-14 14:32:45 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
Instead of increasing demand let's cut supply. We should be forced to defend the ice belts from the evil Drifters and their battleships that can destroy the ice roids with one shot.


Rare means nothing in EVE.

The market is full of super rare and super useless things. All rare does is delay the bloat.
Brutus Utama
State War Academy
Caldari State
#35 - 2015-02-16 09:01:07 UTC
The low ice prices doesnt stop people from mining it they just store it up instead of selling it.....once the price rises the market will flood crashing the price again.
Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2015-02-16 15:25:34 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Grrrrr Player-driven economy!!!!!








Nerfing jump distances seems very player driven =p
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#37 - 2015-02-16 22:33:33 UTC
Kiandoshia wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Grrrrr Player-driven economy!!!!!








Nerfing jump distances seems very player driven =p



That's not an economic issue, it's an exogenous variable which the player driven economy will adapt to and find a new equilibrium.
Slickste
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2015-02-16 22:42:21 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Kiandoshia wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Grrrrr Player-driven economy!!!!!








Nerfing jump distances seems very player driven =p



That's not an economic issue, it's an exogenous variable which the player driven economy will adapt to and find a new equilibrium.


Which is exactly what the op suggested. To change the variables to help undo some of the damage done to prices by the jump nerf.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#39 - 2015-02-17 12:20:10 UTC
Noragli wrote:
With no counter balancing change to keep ice prices stable, prices have dropped significantly with the jump changes. This indicates supply is becoming far greater than demand.

Should changes to ice requirements for POS and or jumping be increased to help counter the reduction in consumption? Or alternatively perhaps new uses for ice products could be introduced?


how about CCP doesn't make changes on the free market and you turn to other areas to make your isk (lots to be made in WH)

one of the great things about eve is its free market and that gets worn at everytime they try to balance something around it.


(looking at you fozzie)


remember everything in eve is worth 0isk we put the value to it

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Intar Medris
KarmaFleet University
#40 - 2015-02-17 13:00:49 UTC
Simple don't due instant sell orders. mine up a reasonable amount, and set the price you want. Must buy orders are done by traders trying to undercut the market so they can sell it at market price to make a tidy profit.

I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.
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