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NPC cap usage

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Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#1 - 2015-02-16 00:27:49 UTC
hey,
can anyone tell me whether or not NPC's use capacitor for their guns (non-projectile)/prop/ewar/rep etc.

I'm wondering if I could cap out the sansha/blood raiders burners.......

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Blobskillz McBlub
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-02-16 01:04:53 UTC
NPCs have infinite cap
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#3 - 2015-02-16 01:32:19 UTC
Don't know about burners but you can nos normal rats for cap if you're stuck.

You can't cap them out but you can effect them negatively with neuts, I think it slows their active rep.

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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-02-16 03:33:58 UTC
You can NOS NPC's. It's ideal if you are tight on cap.


That said, you should assume that all NPC ships have a role bonus of 100% Reduction in Cap Usage for All Modules. Donno about burners, but in all other cases you will never stop them.
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#5 - 2015-02-16 11:40:14 UTC
thanks guys.... that being said, what's the best way to slow the succubus burner down then if I can't cap it out?

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#6 - 2015-02-16 13:49:36 UTC
Xe'Cara'eos wrote:
thanks guys.... that being said, what's the best way to slow the succubus burner down then if I can't cap it out?

boosted over heated webs?

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Blobskillz McBlub
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-02-16 14:54:30 UTC
boosts and overheating only increae the web range. but yea webs are your friend against the succubus
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#8 - 2015-02-16 17:46:11 UTC
yeah, but how many webs does it take to slow it down? I was dual webbing it, in a MWD frig, and still not keeping up, until it got out of jam range of my kitsune (yes, I was dualboxing), and turned back on me...... any suggestions?
2x 60% webs are clearly not enough...

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Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-02-16 19:09:07 UTC
Xe'Cara'eos wrote:
yeah, but how many webs does it take to slow it down? I was dual webbing it, in a MWD frig, and still not keeping up, until it got out of jam range of my kitsune (yes, I was dualboxing), and turned back on me...... any suggestions?
2x 60% webs are clearly not enough...

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ISD Etetia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-02-16 19:11:59 UTC
Do NPC ships need capacitor to fire their guns / activate their modules?

No, they do not

Do NPC ships have capacitor energy?

Yes they do, and the mechanic works in a somewhat similar fashion as player ships when you are using a nosferatu energy drain module on them, meaning the energy you can drain isn't infinite / unlimited

The exact details of how NPC's operate is not disclosed, but keep in mind: NPC's don't 'cheat', they do, however, play by different rules.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#11 - 2015-02-16 19:15:55 UTC
Xe'Cara'eos wrote:
yeah, but how many webs does it take to slow it down? I was dual webbing it, in a MWD frig, and still not keeping up, until it got out of jam range of my kitsune (yes, I was dualboxing), and turned back on me...... any suggestions?
2x 60% webs are clearly not enough...

this may sound a bit mad but have you tried scramming it?

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-02-16 19:21:40 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Xe'Cara'eos wrote:
yeah, but how many webs does it take to slow it down? I was dual webbing it, in a MWD frig, and still not keeping up, until it got out of jam range of my kitsune (yes, I was dualboxing), and turned back on me...... any suggestions?
2x 60% webs are clearly not enough...

this may sound a bit mad but have you tried scramming it?


It's definately a good idea to try it but it would be stupid as **** to have designed a sucubus that would not be using an AB...
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#13 - 2015-02-16 19:36:49 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Xe'Cara'eos wrote:
yeah, but how many webs does it take to slow it down? I was dual webbing it, in a MWD frig, and still not keeping up, until it got out of jam range of my kitsune (yes, I was dualboxing), and turned back on me...... any suggestions?
2x 60% webs are clearly not enough...

this may sound a bit mad but have you tried scramming it?


It's definately a good idea to try it but it would be stupid as **** to have designed a sucubus that would not be using an AB...

Well it was that or put a fednavy web on a frigate, whitch is mad.

I do see your point but if the web's aren't working...

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Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#14 - 2015-02-16 22:22:57 UTC
to be honest, I haven't tried scramming it...... kinda went down the line of 'bonus to AB speed boost, therefore....'

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#15 - 2015-02-16 22:27:58 UTC
Xe'Cara'eos wrote:
to be honest, I haven't tried scramming it...... kinda went down the line of 'bonus to AB speed boost, therefore....'

i would have imagined so aswell, worth a shot though

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Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#16 - 2015-02-16 23:08:58 UTC
mmmmh think I need to get onto sisi and test this.....

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Team Liquid crp.
#17 - 2015-02-17 11:37:00 UTC
Blobskillz McBlub wrote:
boosts and overheating only increae the web range. but yea webs are your friend against the succubus


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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2015-02-17 11:48:59 UTC
ISD Etetia wrote:

but keep in mind: NPC's don't 'cheat',

Can a point prevent them warping now?

I'm my own NPC alt.
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#19 - 2015-02-17 13:40:25 UTC
ISD Etetia wrote:
The exact details of how NPC's operate is not disclosed, but keep in mind: NPC's don't 'cheat', they do, however, play by different rules.

Rules like Signature Resolution and Max Targetting range; like stacking penalties on Sensor Damps and Tracking Disruptors (ignoring that they still use pre-nerf damps and TDs)...
Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#20 - 2015-02-17 14:01:59 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
ISD Etetia wrote:

but keep in mind: NPC's don't 'cheat',

Can a point prevent them warping now?

Role bonus: +9001 Warp Core Stability
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