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Simultaneous Target Locking

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ficr
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2015-02-16 15:48:22 UTC
I read online that you can lock 2 target simultaneously without any training. How do you do that?

Currently I'm selecting the target.
Hitting the lock.
Getting the lock.
Selecting the second target.
Hitting the lock.
Getting the lock.
Now I have 2 targets selected and locked.

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Targeting

Thank You for your time.
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2015-02-16 15:54:09 UTC
It means you can have two things targeted at the same time, not that you can target two things in one move.
Justin Zaine
#3 - 2015-02-16 15:56:08 UTC
^^

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Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2015-02-16 16:03:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Ned Thomas
As a tip, use the hotkey to target with (I believe the default is "Ctrl" but I could be wrong). Hold down the key and then click on whatever you want to target, either in space or in your overview. This will let you target multiple things faster.

EDIT: List of hotkeys https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Keyboard_Controls
ficr
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-02-16 16:09:10 UTC
Ned Thomas wrote:
It means you can have two things targeted at the same time, not that you can target two things in one move.


Understood.

How is the Target Managment Skill useful?
+1 extra target per skill level, up to the ship's maximum allowed number of targets locked.

I'm reading this as the maximum number of targets being set by the ship. So if you ship's maximum is 2 this skill has no impact. Conversely if you ship's maximum is 4 this skill still has no impact.

Thank You for your time.
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2015-02-16 16:10:49 UTC
There is an autotargetting module. I don't know exactly how it works nor do I know anyone that has ever even tried it but it is a high slot item that increases the number of targets that you can lock without having to train skills if for some reason you are trying to avoid that. Again I'm not recommending you use it I'm just saying that it exsists.

If you Ctrl + left click on targets in your overview you can target multiple things very quickly it won't be exactly at the same time but it will be a fraction of a second apart. Also if you want to target more things at once up to the limit of your ship the targeting skill "Target Management" is a 1X training multiplier which means it is the fastest training skill level in game.

I've given some advice here since I am not exactly sure what you are trying to do maybe if you give a specific description of what you would like to do we might be able to better tell you how to do it.

Also questions like this I take as evidence that you don't have any friends in game that you can go to and ask questions as you go. For this reason I strongly recommend that you make some friends in game. Either join a new player friendly corp or join some public chat channels maybe even the public chat channels for various corps trying to recruit new players. How ever you do it get some friends that can answer the random question here and there that you can have some back and forth with and not have to come to the forums and wait for an answer.

Also don't be afraid to talk in local and ask for help there. Some players might smart off to you but more often you'll find helpful people. Eve is known for it's helpful player base.

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Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-02-16 16:10:51 UTC
Ship has a maximum number of targets
Pilot has a maximum number of targets

actual max number of targets will be the lower of the two.

For example ship has 7 max targets

pilot has 5 max targets

Actual max targets will be 5
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#8 - 2015-02-16 16:15:18 UTC
ficr wrote:

I'm reading this as the maximum number of targets being set by the ship. So if you ship's maximum is 2 this skill has no impact. Conversely if you ship's maximum is 4 this skill still has no impact.

You could lock 4 if you had the skills to do so and the ship allows .

i can currently lock up to 9 if my ship can also lock as many,
so thats "Target Management V " and "Advanced Target Management III "
ficr
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-02-16 16:17:16 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
Ship has a maximum number of targets
Pilot has a maximum number of targets

actual max number of targets will be the lower of the two.

For example ship has 7 max targets

pilot has 5 max targets

Actual max targets will be 5


Understood.
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2015-02-16 16:18:18 UTC
ficr wrote:
Ned Thomas wrote:
It means you can have two things targeted at the same time, not that you can target two things in one move.


Understood.

How is the Target Managment Skill useful?
+1 extra target per skill level, up to the ship's maximum allowed number of targets locked.

I'm reading this as the maximum number of targets being set by the ship. So if you ship's maximum is 2 this skill has no impact. Conversely if you ship's maximum is 4 this skill still has no impact.

Thank You for your time.


I'll take the Amarr tech 1 logi frig the Inquisitor as an example. I am not sure of how many targets that you can hold with no skills but I think it's 2 however it might be only 1 but for the sake of this example I'll say 2

So the Inquisitor if you look at "show info" then "Attributes" tab you'll see that it has Maximum Locked targets of 7. So if you have no targeting skills and you fly that ship you can target 2 things. If you train target management to 1 you can lock 2 things in that ship. Train it to 2 and you can lock 4 things etc etc... Now if you train Target Management to 5 and Advanced Target Management to 5 Meaning that in theory you have the skills to lock 12 targets and you fly the Inquisitor you will still only be able to target 7 targets since that is the limit for that ship.

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Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2015-02-16 16:21:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Ned Thomas
ficr wrote:
Ned Thomas wrote:
It means you can have two things targeted at the same time, not that you can target two things in one move.


Understood.

How is the Target Managment Skill useful?
+1 extra target per skill level, up to the ship's maximum allowed number of targets locked.

I'm reading this as the maximum number of targets being set by the ship. So if you ship's maximum is 2 this skill has no impact. Conversely if you ship's maximum is 4 this skill still has no impact.

Thank You for your time.


The skill is useful for any ship that can target more than 2 things. You are correct in that the maximum number of targets is set by the ship, but your skill dictates how many of those targets YOU can lock up. So if a ship has a maximum of 4 targets, but you can only lock up two things, then your maximum number of targets is two. Additionaly, the skill is a prerequisite for a couple of targeting modules. Being able to lock up a lot of targets really shines when flying a logistics ship, and if you're running a data or relic site its handy to keep a lot of the cans locked up. Outside of that, there won't be many situations where you'll want to target more than 2 or three things at a time (that I'm aware of).

EDIT: I don't think enough people answered that question Big smile
Memphis Baas
#12 - 2015-02-16 17:15:59 UTC
With no skill each pilots only gets 2 targets.

Some ships can lock 10-12 targets.
Tyrton
Imbecile MIiss Managment and Disasters
Intergalactic Interstellar Interns
#13 - 2015-02-17 02:13:47 UTC
ficr wrote:
Ned Thomas wrote:
It means you can have two things targeted at the same time, not that you can target two things in one move.


Understood.

How is the Target Managment Skill useful?
+1 extra target per skill level, up to the ship's maximum allowed number of targets locked.

I'm reading this as the maximum number of targets being set by the ship. So if you ship's maximum is 2 this skill has no impact. Conversely if you ship's maximum is 4 this skill still has no impact.

Thank You for your time.



you are correct you can't go past the ships max..


Take a look at logistic ships and the noctis that's where target management shines
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#14 - 2015-02-17 02:31:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
ficr wrote:
I read online that you can lock 2 target simultaneously without any training. How do you do that?

CTRL left-click on overview
CTRL left-click on overview
...
Repeat until you hit the maximum.

You don't even have to wait for any lock to complete.

Memphis Baas wrote:
With no skill each pilots only gets 2 targets.

Some ships can lock 10-12 targets.

Example:

Vargur Marauder. Maximum Locked Targets: 10.

With an Auto Targeting System II fitted and online (doesn't have to be active though), a Marauder's targeting electronics are capable of locking 13 targets.

Unfortunately a pilot's brain can only manage at most 12.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#15 - 2015-02-17 03:10:05 UTC
Target Management 4 is pretty important to train early in your career (before getting into a battlecruiser).

Advanced Target Management 3 is important to pick up a little later. ATM 4 or 5 can wait.

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#16 - 2015-02-17 03:49:50 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Example:

Vargur Marauder. Maximum Locked Targets: 10.

With an Auto Targeting System II fitted and online (doesn't have to be active though), a Marauder's targeting electronics are capable of locking 13 targets.

Unfortunately a pilot's brain can only manage at most 12.


Bastion mode gives +3 targets. an auto-targeter is more useful on a ship like a Machariel. Wherea signal amp gives +lock range +scan res + locked targets and fits nicely on ravens.

personally I have advanced target management V as well. the main intention was for flying logistics and/or triage. but in general it seems a bit useful. lv 3 or 4 on advanced is probably all you need for most uses, going beyond that is pretty specialized. Target management is only rank one, I got by for a long time only having it at a somewhat low level, it isn't a huge priority if you have other skills to train, but it is rather nice having it at a high level eventually.

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Delta Naskingar
The Icarus Expedition
Solyaris Chtonium
#17 - 2015-02-17 06:41:32 UTC
Question

If i have lockt 2 targets and shooting the first one, butt whant to shoot target nr2 he is geting to close.
how do i switch target and focus fire target nr2.
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2015-02-17 07:42:30 UTC
Delta Naskingar wrote:
Question

If i have lockt 2 targets and shooting the first one, butt whant to shoot target nr2 he is geting to close.
how do i switch target and focus fire target nr2.

You just left click on it. You can do that either on the overview or on the target it's self where they are lined up on the upper right hand part of your screen (default location). Also you can drag those targets around in the list to rearrange them.

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2015-02-17 07:45:17 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:

Example:

Vargur Marauder. Maximum Locked Targets: 10.

With an Auto Targeting System II fitted and online (doesn't have to be active though), a Marauder's targeting electronics are capable of locking 13 targets.

Unfortunately a pilot's brain can only manage at most 12.

I've not used the auto targeting system but it says in the description up to the ships max. I don't recall it being that way so either it has changed or my memory is incorrect but either way if it follows the description it only increases up to the max of the ship. Bastion mode module however adds like 3 more targets when active.

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Cherri Minoa
Serendipity Technologies Inc
#20 - 2015-02-17 10:51:18 UTC
Delta Naskingar wrote:
Question

If i have lockt 2 targets and shooting the first one, butt whant to shoot target nr2 he is geting to close.
how do i switch target and focus fire target nr2.


You can also set shortcuts keys for next / previous. I use Z and X.

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