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Next ship after Assault frigates for mission running?

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Widdux Whatwid
Hult Business School
#1 - 2015-02-15 13:37:10 UTC
Right now I got a Harpy fitted pretty good with all the essentials at Tech II.

There is not much else I can do to this ship. I mostly run missions with this character and I need a new & better ship for some lvl 3 & 4 mission. Today some lvl 3 are difficult and requires a lot of warping in and out.

I heard Drake and Tengu are some really good ships for this purpose.

Do you have any ideas of what would be a natural transition from Assault Frigates?
Kiddoomer
The Red Sequence
#2 - 2015-02-15 14:16:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiddoomer
Heavy assault cruisers are fine for L3 and even 4, not the best (fastest) for L4 but they do the job. Since your Harpy is a turret boat I suggest you to go for the Eagle.

Personally I use a Cerberus to blitz trough L3, I prefer this to L4 because I can do them very quickly.

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Mysa
EVIL PLANKTON
#3 - 2015-02-15 16:56:18 UTC
Rail Protues whit drone sub, or a rail Tengu if you wanna minimize your skill plan to keep it simple. Sentry/Rail ishtar is fine aswell but then you have all them drone skills to inject. Moa/Eagle/Deimos And then for luls Astarte?
Sentry 10
Escape Velocity
#4 - 2015-02-15 23:01:46 UTC
If you can afford a tengu then go for that. The tengu could be your ship for both lvl3 and 4s with ease if you have good skills.

If not, any heavy assault ship will blitz lvl3s with easy. I could pretty much afk it in my sacrilege.

of course, be sure to check out eve-survival.org for your mission needs. It has an in depth mission database as well as guides
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#5 - 2015-02-16 04:41:40 UTC
a t2/t3 cruiser is a lot of specialization for lv3/4 missions (and aren't really all that effective in most cases anyways). I would work to a battlecruiser for lv3s, and then a battleship for lv4s. with a balanced remap and +3s, looks like it takes ~7 days to train BS4, where cruiser 5 takes 20days just on its own. And training a large weapon to 4 doesn't take very long either. I am mostly ignoring support skills as I assume they are already done, or will be required for both ships. Sure getting a t2 fit marauder will take longer than a t2 fit HAC, but neither is an entry to barrier.

A drake will face roll lv3s, and a tengu will do it even better than a drake. personally I prefer turret ships, but not sure how good BC level turret ships are for missions. Sounds like medium rails are in a pretty good position these days, so a ferox would probably work reasonably well. Drones are pretty strong, so a myrmidon would probably also be a good choice.

not really sure what your goals are so I won't push too strongly for any one direction, but there are options. for some training cruiser 5 is preferable to training any BS skills at all. A meta fit battlecruiser is sufficient for lv3s. and you will get there far quicker than you will training cruiser lv 5.

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Perkin Warbeck
Higher Than Everest
#6 - 2015-02-18 21:05:38 UTC
I would suggest the Gila. Even with low skills it can breeze through Level 3 and 4 missions. The price might be an issue but it pays for itself pretty quickly.
Brutus Utama
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-02-19 13:08:56 UTC
I used a Gila to run level 4's Really nice Tank for a cruiser (with the right skills) and also around 700 DPS+
Mr Mac
Dark Goliath
#8 - 2015-02-19 13:21:58 UTC
Just do in normal way:
Cruisers - lvl2 missions
Battlecruisers - lvl3 missions
Battleships - lvl4 missions
They do bery very well
Deacon Abox
Black Eagle5
#9 - 2015-02-19 23:39:06 UTC
If you are just doing high sec missions the easiest and best progression is as stated above. All the tech II frigs and cruisers are mainly pvp boats. Sure you can use them for missioning, but they really shine in pvp. Tech III cruisers are another option. However, they are slated for some alteration/trimming "soon." So I would suggest you just go with the tech I ship progression until things start to settle out with the tech III cruisers.

You have probably sunk some sp already into tech II hybrids. So Ferox then Rokh or Brutix then Hyperion or all 4 would be efficient paths of least resistance. And you really should go two races anyway because you will be thankful later on if you decide to pvp (which is where eve becomes really fun imo, but I do understand the sense of accomplishment with getting to level 4s). Two races like Gallente and Caldari give you options in tanking and weapons while retaining some initial skill efficiency because of hybrid turrets for pve. And if you pvp you will be able to go out with armor or shield fleets.

CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting off button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.