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HiSec Retriever - Scanner or Shield?
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Catain Tsuruomo
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-02-09 17:47:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Catain Tsuruomo
Do you just chew through everything or is the scanner worth the shield loss to reduce wasted cycle time?

~ Seems I'm a diagnostic: someone who doesn't know whether there are two gods. ~
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#2 - 2015-02-09 18:04:31 UTC
Scanner = more effort.

You decide. (hint: f*ck effort)

Not today spaghetti.
Danko1978
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-02-09 22:40:32 UTC
Scanner is better, it's a must. It will save you a lot of time that can be wasted when you don't know how much ore is left in the asteroid being mined...
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#4 - 2015-02-09 22:54:17 UTC
I usually sort the scanner results and mine the biggest asteroids first.

A shield on a retriever is not going to stop many ganks. If I'm worried about the amount of shield I need I switch to a Procurer.

Violet Sinbucket
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2015-02-09 23:33:19 UTC
Scanner definitely.
Charlie Jacobson
#6 - 2015-02-10 00:22:30 UTC
If you're gonna fly a retriever, you might as well fit a scanner. Your best tank is to buy a permit and not be AFK ;)

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Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-02-10 00:33:57 UTC
lol

pro tip 1: you can have 5 tabs in your overview. you can have a separate color coded tab for each rock you mine

pro tip 2: setup bookmarks in each belt, this way you warp directly to the rocks

bottom line. yes, shield on retriever is not going to stop a gank, but! the scanner is not needed either if you use pro tips. so, fit for tank and pray that the bad guys don't bring enough catalysts.


Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!
Catain Tsuruomo
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-02-10 02:06:56 UTC
Charlie Jacobson wrote:
If you're gonna fly a retriever, you might as well fit a scanner. Your best tank is to buy a permit and not be AFK ;)

I'll quit the game before I pay extortion money. And I'm not quitting the game.

For me, scanner is the way to fly. Thanks all for your input.

~ Seems I'm a diagnostic: someone who doesn't know whether there are two gods. ~
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-02-10 02:34:37 UTC
Catain Tsuruomo wrote:
Charlie Jacobson wrote:
If you're gonna fly a retriever, you might as well fit a scanner. Your best tank is to buy a permit and not be AFK ;)

I'll quit the game before I pay extortion money. And I'm not quitting the game.

For me, scanner is the way to fly. Thanks all for your input.


for tank i would recommend bulkheads so and if u can still fit an mse u should be able to survive 2 catatlysts not sure if its fitable so
Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#10 - 2015-02-10 03:44:12 UTC
Jeanne-Luise Argenau wrote:


for tank i would recommend bulkheads so and if u can still fit an mse u should be able to survive 2 catatlysts not sure if its fitable so


As far as I'm aware you need about 20k EHP + to survive 2 Cats (well in a 0.7 or 0.6) and to get that much tank on a Ret you will have to have a PWG implant to make it fit but it is possible.

EFT says 26k EHP with 3 bulk head rigs, a DC2 , MSE and 2 Bulkhead mods.
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2015-02-12 02:19:19 UTC
Andrew Indy wrote:
Jeanne-Luise Argenau wrote:


for tank i would recommend bulkheads so and if u can still fit an mse u should be able to survive 2 catatlysts not sure if its fitable so


As far as I'm aware you need about 20k EHP + to survive 2 Cats (well in a 0.7 or 0.6) and to get that much tank on a Ret you will have to have a PWG implant to make it fit but it is possible.

EFT says 26k EHP with 3 bulk head rigs, a DC2 , MSE and 2 Bulkhead mods.


thats more along the line i thought off (21k against void) needs 3 cats to make sure in .5, 2 might be enough so

[Retriever, mining1]
Damage Control II
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Medium Shield Extender II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

Medium Transverse Bulkhead I
Medium Transverse Bulkhead I
Medium Transverse Bulkhead I
Chad Wylder
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#12 - 2015-02-12 04:14:22 UTC
Basically the same fit swapping out the mid, but you get a second MLU for slightly less tank. (20.6k vs 21.3k EHP against Antimatter)

[Retriever, Standard Fit]

Damage Control II
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II

Medium Transverse Bulkhead I
Medium Transverse Bulkhead I
Medium Transverse Bulkhead I


Hobgoblin II x1
Mining Drone I x4

Drop the Thermal Amp down to a meta one if the CPU is too tight.

Also, a tip to get even more tank. Take 2 Reinforced Bulkhead II with you and drop a mobile depot next to where you're mining. When a gank ship shows up (or even just when a known ganker is in local), swap your MLUs for the bulkheads. As a bonus, you can take a salvage drone with you and swap it with your hobgoblin when you want to salvage wrecks.
Cherry Nobyl
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2015-02-14 10:19:28 UTC
Charlie Jacobson wrote:
If you're gonna fly a retriever, you might as well fit a scanner. Your best tank is to buy a permit and not be AFK ;)



buy a permit? wow, i hope to god these guys find me mining somewhere and attempt to extort anything. i would love it.

anywho, you'll get 25k ehp from a dc2, double reinforced bulkheads and triple tranverse rigs. this leaves the slot for a scanner open, opportunity to refit, yadda yadda.

the scanner is handy on those last rolls of the strippers that end up empty. it's a small thing, but a thing nonetheless.