EVE General Discussion

[Theory 3/4]:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5549658#post5549658

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Hey again everyone!

So you all know about these guys, right?

They are coming to Tranquility in Tiamat, flying insanely powerful battleships capable of destroying marauders in one shot with a powerful superweapon. They appear near unidentified wormholes and will warp between them and the not-so-unidentified structures; and if you approach either structure, they may open fire.

They have their own faction, the Drifters, and fly under the "Viligant Tyrannos". On the surface, this may all seem totally new.

But it may not be.

Yet again (put on that Titanium Plated Cranial Shielding, everyone)I have a theory that I seriously would like everyone to look at and consider. I'll do my very best to explain it.

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Let me introduce you to Miko Bour. He was a The Jove leader who prevented the total collapse of the Jovians following the collapse of the First Empire. He brought the Jovians together once more under his rule, and became known as the Second Empire's first "Tyrant". However, he was no tyrannical tyrant- he was a ruler in a more traditional sense, a good but firm leaded. Under him, the Jovians were reunited for thousands of years before the second collapse due to the Jovian Disease.

His faction was ruthless and strong-armed in uniting the Jove, but they were not a tyranny- their goal was to unite the Jovians.

Now, the Drifters today operate under the name "Vigilant Tyrannos".

The names sound similar, but if you look at the meaning, it's even more interesting: "Vigilant" has a latin origin meaning aware or watchful.

The name then becomes "Watchful Tyrants".

There's just too much relation here for it to be a mere coincidence- EVE Source (where I got this info- see here and here) is the most recently published lore compendium and lists this as an important fact of the Jovians. The names are eerily similar, and their description is even more telling:



Now, though we know the Sleepers are in danger as a result of the Other and the others, I do not have enough certainty to speculate on why it says "ruins of the Sleeper Civilization".

And as for the part about the Jovians, remember, this is written from an IC perspective from CONCORD: the Jovians haven't made contact in years and it is likely that this "benign presence" they talk about is precisely that- not the Jovian Directorate itself, but their contact with the empires.

Now for the important part:



The Tyrannos inherit a legacy left behind by ancient Jovians- older than the modern Sleepers themselves, Bour's Tyrants were the greatest power of the Second Empire. If any legacy is implied here, it seems more than likely that this is it: the Drifters have taken up the mantle of the Tyrants. And just like the Tyrants, the Tyrannos of the Drifters do not shy away from exhibiting power to those who oppose them; Bour united the Jovians through strength and influence, and not in a gentle way in some cases (as told by EVE Source).

I am certain there is an important link here.

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Now, another interesting thing:

An old chronicle, Repair Man, involves two mysterious pilots who shut down a capsuleer and do... something to him.

They fly two mysterious ships and have two "names":

The Hunter and the Healer.

Now, I want you to again look to what's happening now- the Drifter battleships we see so far are piloted by either Apollo Tyrannos or Artemis Tyrannos- their names are where this fits:

Artemis is a hunter: Apollo, though usually associated with the sun, is also a "healer".

Though there are some differences between them and the chronicle's characters, I find this, too, a very curious "coincidence" (and considering the chronicle is from 2002, some things may have changed since then).

I also find it interesting to note that today's SCOPE broadcast (in which my backside looks pretty damn nice ), they mention the theory that the Circadians are transmitting data TO us capsuleers through our implants, and not simply scanning us as many have thought- I hadn't even heard this before today, in fact- and the fact that it appears in the SCOPE broadcast may hold significance- if so, the chronicle related to current events even more than it seems to already.

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I apologize for how long this is, but I feel as if I have to say it- big things are happening- big things

Aww I was expecting the super weapon to fire in the direction that the ship was facing...

Fantastic theory! It certainly isn't unlike Jovians to wield immense power to prove a point. Vak'Atioth proves as much. I'm coming around to the idea that these guys are a disease-clean, principles-intact section of the Jove, returning wit the power to raise a fourth, powerful Empire.

As for the Circadians transmitting data to us, I am SO glad you picked up on that too. When I watched the video earlier today, it made me raise an eyebrow. I don't think I've ever seen that as a player theory, certainly not a super common one, so could that be a hint from CCP?

Perhaps, if you are 'transmitted to', by a circadian seeker then your current pod, assuming you aren't podded, holds some special function or is flagged for something to come? Who knows!


EDIT: Said Disease-ridden when I meant free of the disease, lol

The big question is....can we get these guys to attack Jita 4-4?

Special thanks to the OP for the excellent research and being on the ball with these topics. Jovian Labs is living up to its name.

Now I have a question... where do guristas/player-built gates fit into this?

WHAT is coming through them as per the Amarran Book of Revelations?

Or... maybe the Guristas built their gate... stepped into Drifters' premises... and Drifters are peeking at capsuleer space as to see what did their Jove cousins achieved by handing out the Pod to unevolved primates?

A part of me is willing to get carried away and wish for a) the Drifters being either true neutral or chaotic neutral and b) a way so capsuleers can align with non-evil for a change.

Yet another part says that I am a hisec carebear and I will not use any PvE content that exposes myself to PvP against other player ships. Like, going into some stupid wormhole to meet the Drifters...

I guess ship spinning counts as PvE, since you get a counter and you just watch it go higher and higher through repeating precisely the same action every time.

I was on SiSi last night and saw my first drifter. Im not yet into all the lore, but this is probably the most ive been interested in it. One thing i noticed (that im sure others have as well) is the tank effect on the hull. Looks like an invuln field thats white/gold. Could this just be for decor? Or an indication of a new type of defense?

Actually, is it in relation to the 2nd shield they have? Forgot they had that till i got done typing. (I was hoping for a hull resist mod :D).

Goodpost though. I am enjoying these more and more.

The module Reactive Armor Hardener actually comes with a golden glow on ships that equip & activate it.
The glow you see could hint that drifters have a similar capacity on their hull/armor, ability to modify resistances to the damage type most used against them.

Note just a hypothesis based on your observations, testing required to see if it has any merit! Would be neat tho.

Well, that could be true- however, I've always been of the persuasion that they have used the capsules to gather information- what, specifically, that information would be, I cannot say. However, I also do not think the Drifters are the "enemy" here.

The Other is a threat to the Sleepers, Jovians, Enheduanni, and certainly extends to the Drifters, who come from Anoikis and, more likely than not, the Construct. If they are indeed awakened Architects or Enheduanni under the mantle of the Tyrants, having left the construct to come back to New Eden, the only enemy that makes immediate sense is the Other- it is responsible for the destruction of the Sleepers' world

Of course, there's a lot we don't know yet- but these are just my ideas so far :)