EVE New Citizens Q&A

I would say that your best bet would be to contact either Eve Uni or Brave newbies, You will have good help and people to fly with.

I would recommend Faction Warfare, you'll be able to gather some general experience flying in a fleets with an active player corporation. They don't have to be elite just active and willing to teach and learn. At smaller fleet sizes you can still work on individual skills while learning to work cohesively as a unit, the real strength of EVE PvP. Being part of a blob might actually hinder your progress as your growth may be hindered by the sheer numbers. The bonus to faction warfare is that you can better get yourself into a position to have equitable engagements in terms of ship class and you can simultaneously fatten that wallet. Try the recruitment forums, someone will take you in.

Red v. Blue is a good choice as well as you will readily get fights, but I'm not sure how they finance their PVP and you mentioned your wallet size so I'm guessing that is a concern.

Agony Unleashed runs paid courses as well, you can check out their site.

As far as the Rifter is concerned it gets a bad rap and popular opinion is that autocannons in general are in a bad spot. I've been messing around with it myself and I personally like the ship, but I'm not going to lie its a lot tougher for me than the gallente ships I'm used to. But if you want to excel with that hull just go out there and try to find fights with it. Just keep flying and if you lose he engagement thin about why you lost.

As far as the kiting, if you're kiting within 7500 I'd say fit an afterburner. The thought is that you attempt to use your speed to dictate range and keep an enemy at around that range you're shooting for with the expectation that you can hit effectively at that distance and they can't. At that range though you will probably be scrammed and webbed, but the afterburner doesn't deactivate when scrammed so it can help you maintain range. I believe a lot of people prefer a Slasher for this type of engagement because it better allows for additional ewar option to mitigate the damage of the enemy like a tracking disruptor.
But you can still try it out in a Rifter, it looks cooler.

You just really have to be on the ball regardless; and this type of kiting isn't the bravely run away 5000 km/s variety so you will be committed to the fight win, lose or get wrecked. Avoid ships with rockets, lasers may be dicey. Or take the fights, but just register why you lost and if you can adjust tactics or fits. Losing is no big deal, but losses where you learn nothing are worthless.

As far as areas, again FW is your best bet since the complexes are ship type specific so for example ONLY T1 and Faction frigs can enter so you don't have to worry about an Assault Frig or Destroyer pounding you into the dirt (inside the plex anyway) and if you actually join the fight you can rake in LP running the things. If not you can just fight the FW guys but you will incur sec status loss and be flagged suspect; your mileage may vary on what that means for you.

Good luck!

Rifter and vexor are both great ships.

Best advice, buy and fit 10 rifters and have them next to or in lowsec. Then Just throw yourself at whatever you see.

Look up my corp, join the public channel. We would love to help you out

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Thanks for the great replies guys, Lots of information here for me to take in. I've not heard of brave newbies, will look them up. I'll also look into faction warfare as I wasn't too sure what it entailed. The section Lupe Meza mentioned about it having complexes with forced ship sizes seems pretty ideal to me.
I hadn't even considered the Slasher or things like tracking disruptors to be honest, going to go read up on them now as I'm not too familiar with either.
I'll join the channel Darth Terona mentioned and check out the guide.
Thanks again for the help all of you.

You don't even have to join Faction Warfare to fight in FW complexes. In a way, you get more fights if you don't, because you can attack both sides.

My advice would be to fit up a bunch of Rifters somewhere near FW space (like Hek, as mentioned above), fly into any of the systems on this map (A/M FW MAP), and start warping to complees with names starting with "Novice." These are the ones that only T1 frigates can enter, so you're more likely to get a fair fight. Remember though that anyone can WARP to the complex, you have to take the acceleration gate to the deadspace pocket inside if you don't want to end up fighting Force Recons.

Dscan or warp to every novice in system, then move on to the next. Lock and shoot anything that moves (but not on gates or stations, as sentry guns will near-alpha your Rifter). If it starts taking too long to get a fight, just find a system with a handful of people in it and sit inside a Novice. The fight will come to you (expect a 4v1, though).

Have fun! And feel free to reach out to me in game!

pretty much this,
people do not play the same on sisi.

its a great place to test fits and builds but not tactics, no one reacts the same as they do on tq

I'm not sure that using the test server is 'bad' per se, just not worth the hassle

You have to download the client, hope your new char is even there, then hope it got that last week of fitting skills you just finished, then you get to bounce around trying to fight alliance tourney frigates...

For what? To save a bit of ISK?

This is why folk just tell you to fit up some t1 fit t1 frigs btw:
Real losses ( and occasional wins )
Real tactics
Real targets ( who are also more likely to be pvping around you when you decide your 'ready' )

Etc.

You can learn many lessons and lose the shakes in ships worth under a mill ISK. That can be insured.....

Why bother learning basic PVP on the test server? It offers so little to younger characters...

This.


Sorry, but SISI is the worst place to try stuff, unless you are going there with a group yourself to do some serious training.


99% of the ships are hilarious purple-fitted ships.
99% of the people don't give a ****, cause there is no loss to their ship (losing actually generates ISK due to insurance payout).

Sorry, but if you want serious training and don't have a group you are doing it with, SiSi is NOT a good option.

Now, say you have a bunch of friends and want to try out a doctrine, tactic or how something works (like practising crashing gate camps)...sure, SiSi is great. You pick a random system that isn't the "move me" system, and have fun practising without any interuption.

I did this once with a bunch of new players, get them on SiSi in a system and held a probing contest, to give them experience with ship-probing, without any pressure from the TQ part.

Besides, if you want PVP practice with no losses (except ammo), you can simply spar with corpmates and agree to "stop at structure".