Ships & Modules

Heya,

I am trying to fit a drake by myself for the first time, the goal here is to handle some C2 Sites. I am playing with two fits right now on EFT and relatively to my skills, here are some numbers :

Fit 1 has 79217 Effective HP, but an active shield defence of 123 ehp/s
Fit 2 has 45204 Effective HP, but an active shield defence of 279 ehp/s

DPS values are the same

How should I choose between those two fits ? Should I consider a DPS value v, therefore my tanking abilities will be limited by time, which could be computed as follow :

Fit 1 : 79217 / (v-123) seconds of tanking until the shield is dead
Fit 2 : 45204 / (v-279) seconds of tanking until the shield is dead

So if I want to compare which Fit would be better, I should do the substraction between the two values above :

79217 / (v-123) - 45204 / (v-279)

Which goes to :

[ 34103(v - 485.04) ] / [ (v-123)(v-279) ]

So we can conclude that :

If 0 < v < 123, then the above quotient is negative, so Fit 2 is tanking more
If 123 < v < 279, then the above quotient is positive, so Fit 1 is tanking more
If 279 < v < 485.04, then the above quotient is negative, so Fit 2 is tanking more
If 485.04 < v, then the above quotient is positive, so Fit 1 is tanking more

So basically it would mean that those fits are depending of the DPS I will receive, and one is not strictly better than the other ?

Any input is welcomed, I believe I may be overthinking it !

[Drake, Fit 1]
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
10MN Afterburner II
EM Ward Field II

'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

[Drake, Fit 2]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Shield Recharger II

Salvager I
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I

That's a good starting point however I would be more happy to understand why it is working better or worse in one situation regarding another one.


Did I make a mistake and Shield Extender are not extending the shield, but the hull ?

I mostly knew it, but I never checked this link. Thank you, it's bookmarked :D

In my specific case I'll be fighting against Sleepers, which means Omnitank if I am right

as a rule of thumb you want to be able to permatank the npcs indefinitely, having to warp in and out to wait for your shield to regen is, ultimately, going to cost you more time.

so i had a quick browse of eve survival, seems the most dangerous site is going to put out about 500 dps so the following fit should be able to handle it no problem:

[Drake, pve]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I

EM Ward Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
10MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I

Now I can't be bothered to do the math now but basically what you want to find out is:

1. how much more dps will i do in a buffer fit
2. how much time will that save on a dangerous wave
3. is that enough time saved enough to kill rats on grid before buffer gives out

For mish running its allow about Regen/Rep. You need to be able to tank the room/spawn with out issue. Its not a race its a war of attrition. You can build high dps builds that tank with there guns but the risk is higher, better to start out over tanked and trade tank for dps as you get a feel for the fit.

Reading is hard.

i think you're doing it right. you're asking good questions and developing the knowledge base to answer them.

couple things come to mind.

1- overheating. in eft if you right click your invuln field it will add a little fire too it, replacing the checkmark. recheck your stats and note the window of time available to make use of. this will go a long way in some engagements where the bastard just .. won't...die... if you're unaware of overheating, please take a moment to consider it.

2- wormhole thingy. depending on your skills the em field can be dropped and a point (warp disruptor) added, because you will get jumped, and you might as well overheat all the things, burn them out, and take one with you.

3- probe launcher/mobile depot refit. relatively self explanatory, but never assume the hole you came in, will be the same one available to leave through.

otherwise, happy trails.