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This... is a ******* great idea. I like it. Pay for security. And raise the taxes of the NPC corps to 40% please.

It's even more to that. It's that they don't understand the value those risks give THEM.

Ultimately the 'safety' crowd would see EVE 'trammelized' into a "pvp server" and a "pve server", mainly because they think that if that happens they will enjoy being able to do as they please (mine, mission, incursion, whatever) in peace. What they would instead find out is that that stuff is super boring even for them, and that they now had no way to 'measure themselves' against the people they so despised.

This is why every time a new game is announced that is in any way similar to EVE, that contingent proclaims that it will "kill EVE unless CCP does something now" (and that something is ALWAYS, unsurprisingly, more safety/hand-holding). new game comes along, the loud contingent makes their "good bye and I told you so" post in out of pod experience and off they go to play a game that isn't crap....


....Only to QUIETLY slink right back to EVE because that new game got old fast, mainly because it restricted how much players could interact (which is what most MMOs and other types of games do).

The safety crowd is very misguided, they honestly believe that more safety will 'make more people stay', yet totally discount the fact that THEY themselves stayed even when the game was more dangerous.



CCP is a good company, but it's not the same group that created the game. That's both good and bad, good because the game is progressing nicely and at an apparently quicker pace, Bad because this 'new ccp' seems to display some 'conventional game developer wisdom' (like "create a friedn'y environment and more people will play and pay) that would be fine for a regular (themepark) game but not good for THE most un-conventional sandbox space game ever made.

If CCP does decide to finally kill off ganking and wardeccing than they need to nerf the income in highsec by at least 90%, we are already at the point where a lot of nullsec players (mainly ones outside the CFC) are using mission/incursion alts to make isk virtually risk free.

Agreed. Instead of nerfs to actual game mechanics carebears should adapt or die.

Sadly though (as displayed beautifully in the OP), its predominantly just the content-creators who have been asked to adapt or die of late.

Time for a little +13 to conflict I say, and NO MORE -1 paper-cuts to the throat of the game. We don't need CSM's asleep at the switch on protecting ANY part of the sandbox, we need less nice-guy Mike Asariah and Sugar Kyle's, and more Tora Bushido and Sabriz's, standing like Gandalf on the bridge saying "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!".

Unless of course, you actually subscribe to the notion EvE should become Hello-Kitty Online or WoW, and support the trend clearly illustrated in the OP. The point though is there is a clear choice to be made on direction here, and while CCP, CSM's and carebears are pretending the road to nerfdom is not being followed, it clearly is.

Your content-creators in game are Gondor, and they are calling for aid...

Who will answer?

p.s.
Consider this. The most powerful thing the Devil actually did, was convince the world he didn't exist.

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the most powerful thing a man ever did was convince others that a god exist.

By creating a boogie man for people to rail against, by creating conflict and stories.
What does the Wizard of Oz have to with it?
If the number of gankers has increased, but the number of ships for sale on the market hasn't, what does that tell you?
It tells me that more gankers are required to do the job, by virtue of ganking having been nerfed repeatedly.

You just described what a "player" does. So...who's obteuse? (Didn't mean to correct your spelling there while you're busy being smarter than everyone else.)

same for carebears then. They create content by being part of the risk of EVE Online, something to rally against, a story to tell, etc.

if gankers didn't have carebears they wouldn't be anything.

I know that's intended as an angry insult, but given my actual line of work, I'll take it as a compliment.