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Planetary ECU output weirdness

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Mikenche
Omni Armed Forces
#1 - 2015-02-12 08:28:03 UTC
What's up with the discrepancy of the extraction amount displayed for ECUs while setting up the program versus while the program is running? The amount displayed during setup is always higher, and in the most egregious case I've seen so far it's higher by a factor of 2.5. Makes it kinda hard to determine when is the optimal point to restart.
Steve Ronuken
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#2 - 2015-02-12 12:57:18 UTC
Skills have an effect on this.

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Civ Kado
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-02-12 18:00:46 UTC
yep, there is a skill that increases the accuracy of the scan readings.
Alyla By
#4 - 2015-02-12 18:01:12 UTC
Mikenche wrote:
What's up with the discrepancy of the extraction amount displayed for ECUs while setting up the program versus while the program is running? The amount displayed during setup is always higher, and in the most egregious case I've seen so far it's higher by a factor of 2.5. Makes it kinda hard to determine when is the optimal point to restart.

The more you will train the Planetology and Advanced Planetology skills, the smaller will be the difference between the amount displayed before and after running the program :)

With both skills at 5, you should have 100% accuracy
Itself Surprised
Bridge To Gantry
#5 - 2015-02-12 20:23:31 UTC
Mikenche wrote:
...in the most egregious case I've seen so far it's higher by a factor of 2.5.


Are you aware that the extraction rates are not constant?

You might program an ECU to average 12,000 units/hour for 2 days. But the initialy hourly cycles could extract 24,000 units and the final cycles only 6,000 units.
Mikenche
Omni Armed Forces
#6 - 2015-02-12 23:55:29 UTC
Itself Surprised wrote:
Are you aware that the extraction rates are not constant?

I am. I was looking at the total amount displayed just before and start after starting the program and seeing it drop by a large amount. Since the shape of the curve stayed (approximately) the same, each individual cycle has to drop by the same factor too.

Thanks for the info on the planetology skills. I see that I had interpreted them incorrectly and thought they would only make the scan view more accurate (well, maybe they do that too, but I was unaware of the effect on extractors).
Civ Kado
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-02-15 18:12:12 UTC
Mikenche wrote:
Itself Surprised wrote:
Are you aware that the extraction rates are not constant?

I am. I was looking at the total amount displayed just before and start after starting the program and seeing it drop by a large amount. Since the shape of the curve stayed (approximately) the same, each individual cycle has to drop by the same factor too.

Thanks for the info on the planetology skills. I see that I had interpreted them incorrectly and thought they would only make the scan view more accurate (well, maybe they do that too, but I was unaware of the effect on extractors).

it could also be that there are other people extracting the raw materials on the same spot that you are extracting yours. Leading to less final resources for you as well.
Mikenche
Omni Armed Forces
#8 - 2015-02-17 20:39:20 UTC
Civ Kado wrote:
it could also be that there are other people extracting the raw materials on the same spot that you are extracting yours. Leading to less final resources for you as well.

That's what I thought first as well, but I couldn't find anything. My planetology is only level 2, so I'm guessing it's that.
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-02-19 06:11:23 UTC
Mikenche wrote:
What's up with the discrepancy of the extraction amount displayed for ECUs while setting up the program versus while the program is running? The amount displayed during setup is always higher, and in the most egregious case I've seen so far it's higher by a factor of 2.5. Makes it kinda hard to determine when is the optimal point to restart.


The reason you see larger numbers in set up is those numbers are per hour and total per the session. The one you see after you submit is cycle amounts. The cycle is 15 minutes and roughly 25% of the average hr amount you saw in the estimates.
Mikenche
Omni Armed Forces
#10 - 2015-02-21 17:00:09 UTC
Sisohiv wrote:
The reason you see larger numbers in set up is those numbers are per hour and total per the session. The one you see after you submit is cycle amounts. The cycle is 15 minutes and roughly 25% of the average hr amount you saw in the estimates.

No, I'm talking about the total amount changing when I install the program. In edit mode it might display 180k total, then after I accept the changes, it might drop to 75k total.

Also, the cycle time depends on the length of the program and goes up to at least one hour on long programs.