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CCP! Please clarify the future plans for WiS!

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Flamespar
WarRavens
#1541 - 2011-12-21 05:00:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Flamespar
I don't know why people bother replying to the small group of people who claim to 'speak for the eve community' and then launch into a ******** attacked on WiS.

It's the same people and the same ******** arguements against WiS again and again.
OMG it's not spaceships therefor it fails.
OMG I don't want to play dress-ups (though when customisable ship skins arrive I'm sure you'll have no problem dressing up your space sparkle pony).
OMG if they work on WiS then no-one will be working on FiS (because it's just not possible to have different teams working on different features, is it? That's just impossible).

Want this thread to end? Get CCP to clarify the future of Incarna. They need to clear up the uncertainty that Hilmars conflicting remarks have created. Give us a yes or no regarding if we are getting new Incarna content in the next 12 months. Then people can move on, and oh I don't know, actually play the game.

The only valid arguement that the anti-WiS crowd have is that, is that CCP should not neglect FiS. No-one who wants to see the rest of Incarna is asking that it should. Only that it gets some dev time same as any other feature in EVE.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#1542 - 2011-12-21 05:24:26 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
I don't know why people bother replying to the small group of people who claim to 'speak for the eve community' and then launch into a ******** attacked on WiS.

It's the same people and the same ******** arguements against WiS again and again.
OMG it's not spaceships therefor it fails.
OMG I don't want to play dress-ups (though when customisable ship skins arrive I'm sure you'll have no problem dressing up your space sparkle pony).
OMG if they work on WiS then no-one will be working on FiS (because it's just not possible to have different teams working on different features, is it? That's just impossible).

Want this thread to end? Get CCP to clarify the future of Incarna. They need to clear up the uncertainty that Hilmars conflicting remarks have created. Give us a yes or no regarding if we are getting new Incarna content in the next 12 months. Then people can move on, and oh I don't know, actually play the game.

The only valid arguement that the anti-WiS crowd have is that, is that CCP should not neglect FiS. No-one who wants to see the rest of Incarna is asking that it should. Only that it gets some dev time same as any other feature in EVE.


Keep stamping your feet and shouting about WIS, CCP is presently interested in revenue and not what might happen with WIS. They are invested in releasing DUST 514. The sooner you realize that, the sooner you can move on and wait for WIS to get an iteration just like all the pro-FIS people have been doing for over 2 years.

It's not so much if WIS will get some love, but when.



☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#1543 - 2011-12-21 05:27:33 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:


Keep stamping your feet and shouting about WIS, CCP is presently interested in revenue and not what might happen with WIS. They are invested in releasing DUST 514. The sooner you realize that, the sooner you can move on and wait for WIS to get an iteration just like all the pro-FIS people have been doing for over 2 years.

It's not so much if WIS will get some love, but when.


Wow. It's almost like you didn't read all of my post (which is in broad agreement with what you say).

It's ok. I will arrange for a audio recording, of my soothing masculine voice, reading the post to you in it's entirety, so as to aid in your understanding.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#1544 - 2011-12-21 05:30:56 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:


Keep stamping your feet and shouting about WIS, CCP is presently interested in revenue and not what might happen with WIS. They are invested in releasing DUST 514. The sooner you realize that, the sooner you can move on and wait for WIS to get an iteration just like all the pro-FIS people have been doing for over 2 years.

It's not so much if WIS will get some love, but when.


Wow. It's almost like you didn't read all of my post (which is in broad agreement with what you say).

It's ok. I will arrange for a audio recording, of my soothing masculine voice, reading the post to you in it's entirety, so as to aid in your understanding.


I look forward to your letters.
(spoken in Craig Ferguson's voice)

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
robbyx
#1545 - 2011-12-21 05:37:14 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
I don't know why people bother replying to the small group of people who claim to 'speak for the eve community' and then launch into a ******** attacked on WiS.

It's the same people and the same ******** arguements against WiS again and again.
OMG it's not spaceships therefor it fails.
OMG I don't want to play dress-ups (though when customisable ship skins arrive I'm sure you'll have no problem dressing up your space sparkle pony).
OMG if they work on WiS then no-one will be working on FiS (because it's just not possible to have different teams working on different features, is it? That's just impossible).

Want this thread to end? Get CCP to clarify the future of Incarna. They need to clear up the uncertainty that Hilmars conflicting remarks have created. Give us a yes or no regarding if we are getting new Incarna content in the next 12 months. Then people can move on, and oh I don't know, actually play the game.

The only valid arguement that the anti-WiS crowd have is that, is that CCP should not neglect FiS. No-one who wants to see the rest of Incarna is asking that it should. Only that it gets some dev time same as any other feature in EVE.



NO !!!!!!!...it had enough dev time, and nothing of value came of it.....and yet you still claim no one wanting more WiS doesnt want to see FiS neglected....but it was, for a long time, and it will again if devs waste more time on it....and it is not a game feature, it is a silly little by product to appease people who find FiS to tough and scary....

Come to EVE to asslpode spaceships, and gets yours assploded....anything else, go elsewhere.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1546 - 2011-12-21 05:46:49 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
Want this thread to end?

I don't want this thread to end. I like having the handful of pro-Barbie people all in one location.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Disdaine
#1547 - 2011-12-21 06:41:54 UTC
robbyx wrote:

Come to EVE to asslpode spaceships, and gets yours assploded....anything else, go elsewhere.


http://myeveguide.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/eve-wtd.jpg

I guess we can just tear up the bottom half of that chart then.
Arcathra
Technodyne Ltd.
#1548 - 2011-12-21 07:12:47 UTC
robbyx wrote:

Your the blind one here buddy....if you think we will ever see a full blown WiS expansion, like the one that just caused mass protests and players to unsub in droves, your an idiot.....it already did incite players to leave, and CCP didnt like it so they stopped.

What the EVE community doesnt need is full blown retards like you trying to turn EVE into WoW in space...kindly f**k of back to whatever free-to-play bullsh*t you came from.

Kind regards, the REAL EVE community.

I hope we never again get an expansion like Incarna, because that was just ... terrible. For most people, Incarna had nothing to do with the actual WiS that we are asking for for years. It was just a start. A bad start I have to admit, yes. But now CCP has the Carbone framework in place, they have made the first experience with the CQs and I think they could build fast on that, if they really want without sacrificing too much workforce from FiS. And just for your information: people protestet about a lot of things, none of them were the idea of WiS itself, but the supposed implementation and the far to long abondening of other features. And the protesters were absolutly right. Nobody denies that.
Think about it: Crucible added a lot of small features and fixes and they did that in a few weeks. Now look at the timeframe we have until the next expansion. I see no real problem in getting a lot of what made the Crucible expansion great and some small additions to WiS.

If you care to read most of the WiS related posts of the supporters, there is no intention in turning EVE into "WoW in space" or anything free to play related. Funny that it seems always an statement the haters try to make into an argument. There may be some people who really think that way, but they are a clear minority.
How WiS can enhance and give a new layer to the overall experience of EVE was stated multiple times, not only in this thread. It's fine if that isn't your cup of tea, I can respect that. But please try to respect the players who think otherwise. If you think this is a kind of war and you are the shiny whiteknighters, you are wrong.

Kind regards, the other half of the EVE community.


And by the way: we don't need to insult our opposition to make our arguments more valid. But please, go on. I like your tears Cool.
Sarion Stormweaver
Spectrum Solutions INC
#1549 - 2011-12-21 07:49:49 UTC
robbyx wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
I don't know why people bother replying to the small group of people who claim to 'speak for the eve community' and then launch into a ******** attacked on WiS.

It's the same people and the same ******** arguements against WiS again and again.
OMG it's not spaceships therefor it fails.
OMG I don't want to play dress-ups (though when customisable ship skins arrive I'm sure you'll have no problem dressing up your space sparkle pony).
OMG if they work on WiS then no-one will be working on FiS (because it's just not possible to have different teams working on different features, is it? That's just impossible).

Want this thread to end? Get CCP to clarify the future of Incarna. They need to clear up the uncertainty that Hilmars conflicting remarks have created. Give us a yes or no regarding if we are getting new Incarna content in the next 12 months. Then people can move on, and oh I don't know, actually play the game.

The only valid arguement that the anti-WiS crowd have is that, is that CCP should not neglect FiS. No-one who wants to see the rest of Incarna is asking that it should. Only that it gets some dev time same as any other feature in EVE.



NO !!!!!!!...it had enough dev time, and nothing of value came of it.....and yet you still claim no one wanting more WiS doesnt want to see FiS neglected....but it was, for a long time, and it will again if devs waste more time on it....and it is not a game feature, it is a silly little by product to appease people who find FiS to tough and scary....

Come to EVE to asslpode spaceships, and gets yours assploded....anything else, go elsewhere.


Using your logic we don't need:
Player driven market.
Industry with all that it means research/PI, POS'es, Player owned stations (WHAT !!! noobs want to build stuff HAH. I wan you to PLAY my GAME, I don't care about YOUR game.)
Taiwanistan
#1550 - 2011-12-21 08:06:27 UTC
the holy trinity of eve online is
1. isk (my gain or you losing more than me)
2. killmails
3. tears

everything else is a by-product of the pursuit of the above,
bunch of morons partaking in faego o7o7o7o7 m8m8m8m8m8 in a station bar whatever
pointless, GTFO

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
Arcathra
Technodyne Ltd.
#1551 - 2011-12-21 08:11:08 UTC
Taiwanistan wrote:
the holy trinity of eve online is
1. isk (my gain or you losing more than me)
2. killmails
3. tears

everything else is a by-product of the pursuit of the above,
bunch of morons partaking in faego o7o7o7o7 m8m8m8m8m8 in a station bar whatever
pointless, GTFO


Oh, it generates tears as you clearly show. What was your point again? Big smile

Pointless for you (that's fine), a clear addition to their gameplay for others. What makes you so special to be the guideline for every other player?
Taiwanistan
#1552 - 2011-12-21 08:15:34 UTC
naw dawg i am liking crucible just fine

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
robbyx
#1553 - 2011-12-21 09:46:16 UTC  |  Edited by: robbyx
Arcathra wrote:
Taiwanistan wrote:
the holy trinity of eve online is
1. isk (my gain or you losing more than me)
2. killmails
3. tears

everything else is a by-product of the pursuit of the above,
bunch of morons partaking in faego o7o7o7o7 m8m8m8m8m8 in a station bar whatever
pointless, GTFO


Oh, it generates tears as you clearly show. What was your point again? Big smile

Pointless for you (that's fine), a clear addition to their gameplay for others. What makes you so special to be the guideline for every other player?



The only tears are coming from you pansy station walking wannabes....and yes i do feel rather special.....i took part in the protests, and put my money where my mouth is and unsubbed, as did enough people to help change CCP's mind.....maybe you should try that, get all the WiS fanbois to quit, see if enough care to make a difference....i sincerely doubt it.....keep crying though, its hilarious tbh.
Disdaine
#1554 - 2011-12-21 10:14:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Disdaine
robbyx wrote:

The only tears are coming from you pansy station walking wannabes....and yes i do feel rather special.....i took part in the protests, and put my money where my mouth is and unsubbed, as did enough people to help change CCP's mind.....maybe you should try that, get all the WiS fanbois to quit, see if enough care to make a difference....i sincerely doubt it.....keep crying though, its hilarious tbh.


Sons of Alexander

[S.O.A] is now recruiting.

We dabble in all aspects of EvE

- Small Gang pvp
- Mission runing

What we are looking for:

- Players with a sense of humor *A must*
- Level headed and mature players that respect each other.

Who needs tears for amusement?
robbyx
#1555 - 2011-12-21 10:25:39 UTC
Disdaine wrote:
robbyx wrote:

The only tears are coming from you pansy station walking wannabes....and yes i do feel rather special.....i took part in the protests, and put my money where my mouth is and unsubbed, as did enough people to help change CCP's mind.....maybe you should try that, get all the WiS fanbois to quit, see if enough care to make a difference....i sincerely doubt it.....keep crying though, its hilarious tbh.


Sons of Alexander

[S.O.A] is now recruiting.

We dabble in all aspects of EvE

- Small Gang pvp
- Mission runing

What we are looking for:

- Players with a sense of humor *A must*
- Level headed and mature players that respect each other.

Who needs tears for amusement?



Theres always the exception to the rule...thats me...but hey, at least ive got the balls to post with my main right ?
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1556 - 2011-12-21 10:53:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Want this thread to end?

I don't want this thread to end. I like having the handful of pro-Barbie people all in one location.


that include you ? Figures..
You are one really devoted role-player.

as far as "barbie-dress-up" goes its all in your head, and heads of those who cries about WiS being that...
You are actually the one who is belittled by this statement not people who like concept of WiS.
People who actually care sees it quite differently.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1557 - 2011-12-21 10:57:27 UTC
Taiwanistan wrote:
naw dawg i am liking crucible just fine



And so the others, otherwise we wouldnt be there, dont you think.. ?
Hikaru Kuroda
Extheria
#1558 - 2011-12-21 11:18:33 UTC
robbyx wrote:
NO !!!!!!!...it had enough dev time, and nothing of value came of it....


They scrapped all the work and started again in January 2011, so in theory they had six months before the official release in June.

But what happened? They didn't develop Incarna, or FiS, they completely abandoned EVE over Dust 514 and World of Darkness.

In a desperate attempt to get revenue, they created the NeX Store, which wasn't intended for Incarna at first.

So you're wrong, WiS didn't have enough develop time, because CCP were working at other games not EVE related or at the NeX Store.

Do some research after breaking others dreams with invalid arguments.
Hikaru Kuroda
Extheria
#1559 - 2011-12-21 11:23:21 UTC
Sarion Stormweaver wrote:
Using your logic we don't need:
Player driven market.
Industry with all that it means research/PI, POS'es, Player owned stations (WHAT !!! noobs want to build stuff HAH. I wan you to PLAY my GAME, I don't care about YOUR game.)


Welcome to the EVE Online "voice of the community" sandbox.
Arcathra
Technodyne Ltd.
#1560 - 2011-12-21 11:42:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Arcathra
robbyx wrote:
The only tears are coming from you pansy station walking wannabes....and yes i do feel rather special.....i took part in the protests, and put my money where my mouth is and unsubbed, as did enough people to help change CCP's mind.....maybe you should try that, get all the WiS fanbois to quit, see if enough care to make a difference....i sincerely doubt it.....keep crying though, its hilarious tbh.

How is asking CCP for an clarification of the future of WiS and giving some feedback about what WiS could or should be, whining? I say it again, the only ones whining are people like you. And you whine because we are discussing about a possible future for WiS.
It is also interesting that you state numerous times that "the WiS fanboys" can't make a difference. If we are so insignificant, why are you posting in here again and insulting other players?
And why should anyone quit about WiS not beeing delivered? WiS is an addition to the game. If it is done, there will be a lot of happy people, if not, some will be disappointed but it wouldn't be the end of the world. The protest you took part in was important, thank you for partaking and helping to make EVE a better game. But that doesn't make you any more special than me or any other "WiS fanboy". You seem to forget that EVE is a sandbox game, not the ultimate "in your face" game. Maybe you are hanging around in the wrong game if you can't have some respect for other players.

Try to use some arguments next time instead of insults and rage. Maybe we can have a better discussion and get to understand each other better that way. Until then... please... cry more Twisted