EVE General Discussion

I don't know about anyone else, but for me the problem with the character creator is the art, not the tech. Tech is actually pretty slick. Art is drab and bland. The fun eccentric art style (with weird hair styles with interesting accessories a la the amarr princess, non-dreadlock long hair, clothing styles that make EVE stand out for its' art style instead of just being another "bleh" tin can art style.) And please, for the love of jeebus, don't try to charge us extra, making us pay for what we once had for free.

Blood line changes aren't needed as long as the art style stop sucking.

Also, reporting as a help chat regular, every single time new AUR is given away there are ALWAYS a bunch of noobs asking "how I equip monokel!" My guess is they are doing it in the mirror instead of in the station services button, but I wouldn't know having never bothered clicking on either since the big disappointment in the good art being removed.

Also, not CC related exactly, but it's annoying to have to manually turn off portraits showing in chats. It makes life so much better with it off, but was even better when it would only load the portraits you care about, and leave those jackass douchebags you don't care about as silhouettes.

• The photo thingy, or rather the preview. It needs two things, first of all anti-aliasing on the preview and second more preview sizes. ( http://piclair.com/data/tjmxx.jpg ). Choosing hair-colors for some of the hairstyles is wonky since only one of the two color palettes are used (some, not all). Either make both matter or remove the useless one.
• Yes. Tucking options took a while and could be a few pixels larger but it does not matter at all so...
• No reason until you do something useful with the full body avatars. Mostly concerned what can actually be seen in chat windows etc.
• Does not make sense, if we can put in brain implants and do genetic manipulation I'm fairly sure that bad eyesight has been taken care of many many years ago. Please, don't add. Wouldn't stand seeing everyone wearing hipster glasses, the pilot sunglasses are bad enough since they are very un-eve.
• Could use a better selection system tbh, having 100 piercings (or how many we have) in that small selection window is annoying. Same with the hairstyles but to a lesser extent.
• The panel selection thingy is a bit inconsistent at times and difficult to "manouver" with it scrolling around oddly at times. Don't know how to describte it really...
• God no. Why? The only ones I've seen whine about bloodline change are the vherikor (or whatever they are called) and perhearps they could use some tuning but no reason to do blood line changes. Small vocal minority...
• More hairstyles and stuff we used to have in the old one. And no I'm not just saying that for hurfdurf, I think it could be exactly what CC needs to be really good instead of just "newer but worse than the old one". Most female hairstyles are meh and only a handfull are even remotely good looking.

Just my .02€ and finally, the models themselfs look weak and are often far away from the vision I and many others have of what eve design and looks should be. Reading in an interview that they are the exact models used in WoD with "some features disabled" was kinda sad. I love EVEs original art direction and now it's kinda plastic tbh.

Intaki got hosed big time.

All we had before incursion was long hippy art school hair.

you should give that back to all intaki men. No short hair, no bald intaki. All long flowing locks, samurai buns and other variations of long hippy hair.

- I've found it hard to make my characters smile either in the character editor or in the portrait taker... I generally want an air of happy-go-lucky free-spiritedness, with maybe a slight upward curve to one corner of her mouth, but it seems I only ever end up with a grotesque or a bland, blank look. And when actually walking around in station she just looks a bit peeved (possibly at the extreme botoxing that must have happened to make her face so rigid).

- Bodily tats would be good but limited value until shared WiS - most people seem to use face/shoulder portraits rather than full length shots (although I assume ppl who used the full length tats would take their portraits appropriately), and I think they would be kind of indistinct on the portrait thumbnails, which is what most peoples only experience of other players is atm.

- Yes to normal glasses - if our characters use sunglasses (when we could just as easily have dimming functions in our ocular implants) and goggles, why would we not use normal glasses? In real life I personally prefer how I look with my glasses on than I do without/wearing contacts. It comes down to just another option that if you don't like it you can ignore, if you do then you can use.

- Bloodline changes/re-customisation: I think quite a few picked their original race based on the look they could get on their characters portraits; I know I did when I first dabbled with the game. Yes, I know, that's not the Spreadsheets In Space min/maxing way, but it happens. Given the reduced variation available, and the less extremes available being able to revisit the characters would be nice.

Quite a few people would also have done the opposite 'cos their spreadsheets told them that race/bloodline x would be most efficient for them; as someone pointed out, that's not really true any more so perhaps they would like to change.

If this was offered, make sure people who are happy with their character (as I figure most people would be) have the option of keeping everything as it is - a 'no, I'm fine, don't bother me' type option so they don't have to mess around & possibly screw up a look they are quite happy with.

I would want to use the option to make small tweaks to the character (broader shoulders/narrower waist) rather than a wholesale rebuild-from-the-ground-up. I found it took a little while of walking around to decide if I liked her or not & by that time it was too late.

- Greater variation (weirdness/extreme sci-fi-ness possibilities) and distinctive body type possibilities between the bloodlines would be nice. The option to show augmentation implants would help solidify the sci-fi-ness of the game.

- Offering a body shape change as a 'service' ala attribute remaps for aur/plex etc would be a good thing (for the role-players out there, given the entire functioning of the brain can be altered - cf attibute remaps - simple cosmetic changes for a new clone should be consistent as an in-game technology).

Also, individual clones at different stations could have different bodily shapes - although that would reduce the distinct nature/identity of the character & break that feeling of identification with the character that WiS is designed to accentuate. Probably better to keep the current restriction it to clothes/implants.

White people, white people never change.

Really wishing I could get the background in this back.

Also, it'd be awesome to get my face mask back, how can I strike fear into the hearts of pod pilots with this guy to the left? :(

Hi CCP karkur!

• When you go through the character creator, is there anything that you find confusing or unclear and could be improved?
Overall the character generator isn't confusing.


• Did you all notice the "tucking" options, that you can randomize the whole character (and each group), and toggle the clothes off?
Hm, I think I have noticed them but never used them. Not sure


• Now we have only facial tattoos... would body tattoos be something you would be interested in (and then how interested), even though you cannot see them in the portrait?
Hey, Im playing a minmatar. Tattoos are very important to me. Some time ago there was a chronicle about minmatar tattoos. They are an integral part of their culture and are even used as some kind of rank insignia and such. I would say we really need body tattoos and some clothes that can emphesize them. And hopefully we will get soon multiplayer enviroments where we can show them of, please?
Oh, and of course body scars!


• A few people have asked for normal glasses... would that be something you would be interested in?
Sure, why not? Even if they are not that sci-fi, but anything that adds to the diversity is good.


• Did anyone have problems with the body modifications, and if so, what did you have problems with?
No problems with them so far.


• Are there any small usability issues that bothering you in the character creator?
I think the usability is good.


• Do you think players in general would be in favor of allowing bloodline changes, or are there just a few souls that are unhappy with their heritage?
There seem to be a lot of people who are not happy how their bloodline turned out after the new character generator and I can understand them. Even some who don't like the gender they have chosen with the new looks. There should be a way to help them, either by petitions or some new mechanics. Would also be a good option to make the NeX store actually helpful.


• Any more suggestions? (other than "hey, we want more racial clothing" and "hey, we want no clothing restrictions").

Obviously we need more of everything (especially haircuts) . I would also like some more lighting options, maybe being able to choose the source of the lighting manually instead of the pre-defined options. Some more lighting colors wouldn't harm too.
Some other props like some kind of implants, masks, headsets, helmets, cigarettes and so on would be cool.

Thanks for listening to us !

I like the new character models very very much, though they certainly kill my computer.
But still I agree the old creator had WAY more variety. Im pretty satisfied with the new avatars I managed to create but I still somehow miss my old ones, they were just more distinct and special overall.

So please, spaceships is fun and nice, but WiS and the character creator is THE ONE THING in Eve with the most potential. And right now its just unfinished business.