EVE General Discussion

I can't wait to defeat the Drifter superweapons by loading ECM onto noobships as sacrificial lambs.

Hmmmm. More epic.

I think they just want a piece of jovians high tech. I wouldn't believe a puppet master.

Thinking of balance and Yin Yang, the struggle between Individuality and Collectivity is one of the two themes we face with some frequency, and in different shades.

Capsuleers are the paramount of individuality, we come and go as we please, we wreck havoc to millions and the universe is shaped for better or worst depending simply on our mood.

On the other side, the Jove have manipulated their each uniqueness so much that they became detached from any other thing and wither alone even in groups.

Sleepers are a harmonic collective that live in a utopian world where there is no need for an individualistic manifestation and everyone is cool with their connectivity detached from the "real" world.

The Sansha are a collective created out of force and control, you have an individual pulling the strings and sharing the mind of millions and calling it enlightenment.

What if some of the Jove and some of the Sleepers decided to embrace a little bit of each others characteristics, out of necessity and adaptability to survive, and trough Sansha tech (probably stolen, wormholes with their presence show they got slaughtered by something or someone) they now we have highly augmented individual manifestations of a collective purpose? After all, the Jove were dying of depression and the Sleepers well.... we ARE committing genocide against them and their guards.

The capsuleer tech is based on the scanning of our brains at the moment of death, and uploading it to a new clone. There are several ways of bad thing happening in this process, such as what happened to Fatal of the Guristas or failing to activate a clone altogether.

It´s like a download from a single server to another server.

What if the Drifters are using a highly sophisticated P2P process where the physical bodies are not the servers, but simply a terminal where the manifestation of the conscience that is safely guarded on the collective and ready to present itself in any other body the moment they wish so?

This seems highly adaptable, and makes the best of both worlds (individual and collective) available to them.

And yet, there´s still the question of what do they want to do with it.....

Unless of course, he's working with the sleepers, as they are clearly a part of this and have been confirmed to be a part of this by the devs. Team-up?

Earlier last year a NPC (CCP actor) by the name of Hilen Tukoss, former founder of the Arek'jaalan project and Site One in Eram, suddenly reappeared and began posting on IGS asking the players to donate Jovian body parts for his new project. He did it in a rather weird way though and his posts were mixed with hexadecimal garbage, so most RPers decided that Tukoss fell victim to some sort of AI and that thing is now controlling him and tries to collect Jovian DNA.

Utlimately, the toaster-Tukoss got his hands on a set of Jovian remains and went silent again.

Now, the Drifters appear.

Let's not forget that the "true" Jovians of the Directorate have their aggression curbed at the genetic level, pilots of the Jovian Navy (if such a thing even exists) being the only exceptions. Thus, the Drifters are not members of the Jovian civilization proper.

tl:dr

Drifters are cloned from the Jovian DNA collected from players via event, but they are not Jovians. They are tools controlled by either the Sleepers or the Other, personally I think it's the Other.

Fun times ahead.

Why would The Other need us to collect samples of Jove DNA? It has actual Jove in sleeping capsules.. That would be my biggest hole in the theory.. Now if it was some other groups.. Rogue Drones? Sansha? They would likely need the samples. Not that I think that's what happened.

I don't the drifters are cloned. I think they are awakened. Perhaps originally Sleepers, but more likely I feel from before that time. Possibly from a previous Jove Empire, that have either decided to return, or were poked by something and are waking up and saying WTF. The Jove stations that are decloaking might be from their time, or more modern, hence their interest in it (and sleeper interest too). Also might explain how they ignore us (not considered a threat) but ill tempered if engaged.


Would be nice for them to decide to carve out their own area of Null..and I don't mean just normal NPC Null, but one they will actively defend..

I'm positive it isn't the other collecting the parts- and if you're saying a previous empire, that fits perfectly with the idea of the Tyrants (the leaders of the second empire) making their return- "Viligant Tyrannos" can mean "awakened tyrants".

Now that you mentioned, I am stealing.

Shhh


And they have a plan.

I for one welcome our new Sleeper Overlords.

As in, no, seriously, CCP can I go work for these guys? I'm happy to assume they have the right idea.