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Preliminary Drifter Analysis

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Nami Kumamato
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-02-11 11:31:21 UTC

There are a few things that can be deduced from the Drifters depiction by CCP that give us a short insight into the design concept and the general art direction that CCP took with these guys (and apparently gals).

1. Heavy Cybernetic Modification
One of their most striking feature.
We know the Jove favored or better said adored genetic modification. The Drifters seem to have the same obsession - only they'd rather stick pliers and motherboards in their heads rather than grow an extra set of muscles.
Genetic modification usually indicates a need or will to transcend the limitations of the biological.
On the other hand cybernetic modification is indicative of a more efficiency oriented way of thinking and the realization that the biological no matter how genetically augmented has it's limitations (in theory), or to facilitate a man-machine interaction.
Also so far there is no indication that they might use capsules - their Jove lineage may support this as we know that the Jove don't use them either. Therefore we can assume that the principal role of these cybernetic modifications is to achieve a more efficient and direct connection with their ship's systems and to augment the computing power of their brains (think Kharan S'Jet). There is no evidence of being more than one Drifter in their battleships so a lot of cybernetic integration would be necessary to be able to simultaneously compute all the calculations necessary to fly a ship of that size without a crew and a capsule. Somehow I doubt that all that hard-wiring in their heads is there to make them solve crosswords faster.

2. Although heavily modified a special interest has been taken to keep the face "screw-free".
One can argument that this has been done by CCP in order to have a way for them to express emotions. After all a toaster-faced humanoid conveys little emotion apart from "I wanna burn your toast". Facial expressions are after all one of the primary ways through which social interaction can be achieved. If there are plans for more interactions with these guys (through cinematics for example) there needs to be a way to dramatize this interaction with them and body language is never enough in this cases.
Lore-wise it can also be argued that the Drifters do this consciously and having a recognizable face is something that has some degree of importance (After all if efficiency is what you're looking for, nostrils are not that much of power-up so there must be a reason as to why they don't have rebreathers instead of noses and mouths).

3. Dat gender difference!
A lot of work has been put in by CCP into creating the female Drifter.
Somehow I doubt that this was done simply to appease the feminazis. After all I didn't hear much complaining about not seeing a female Sansha or female Blood Raider or for all intents and purposes even a female Jove! The only ones on which gender difference plays a role (theoretically) are the playable races.
Will the Drifters someday be a playable race? Possible or probable.
Lore-wise the gender difference seems to have some importance (otherwise why would there be one ?) Maybe female Drifters have different roles and responsibilities in their society. (and I don't imply "shut up and go make me a hyper-euclidian sandwich!")
So far in-game there hasn't been any instance in which it mattered if you shot at a female or a male character. So maybe in this case there will be one.
However my money's on them being at a later point playable (and then the choice between male or female would have some significance).
It can also be argued that the gender difference is there simply for the sake of diversity but I find that argument rather shallow.

4. Dem names!
Apollo and Artemis. They have and "old-but-powerfull" ring to them seing as their are names taken from the Greek pantheon.
Even Startegos (also taken from Greek) reflects a position of out-most importance - the Strategos was the highest military leader in Classical Greece and even nowadays the highest function in the Greek Army is that of Startegos (something akin to Marshal).
Greek naming is thus heavily used. And this, combined with their outrageously powered weaponry, helps in conveying them a certain unseen yet recognizable level of power. Like the gods they are named after.
Vigilant Tyrannos is also a weird combination.
Vigilance defines a heightened state of attention and alertness.
The world vigil also defines a period of purposeful and willing state of sleeplessness (usually devotional watching, although nowadays it's synonymous to a wake).
I very much doubt that (here) it is related to "vigilante" which defines a person that takes law into his won hands.
Tyrannos defines the role of the leader. Although nowadays considered a pejorative term in pre-classical Greece it meant simply leader, ruler of the polis (city).
So in Drifter it may be a way of saying the Awake Rulers/Lords, Sleepless Rulers/Lords or Watchful Rulers/Lords.
Lastly their faction name: Drifters.
It may indicate a nomadic lifestyle (they drift, never settling in one place) which could be tied to why they are present in Thukker tribe territory (which are a nomadic Minmatar tribe). Maybe they found a common ground with the Thukkers.
Or it may indicate their way of navigating space. As their ships do no seem to use what we have come to think of as normal propulsion. They instead use propulsion rods which seem to distort the fabric of space time thus allowing them to "drift" through space.
Or maybe both.

Personally I'm getting a weird "The Machine Crusade" vibe. Waiting on the Agamemnon Tyrannos :D

Fornicate The Constabulary !

Arline Kley
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#2 - 2015-02-11 11:43:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Arline Kley
Nami Kumamato wrote:
1. Heavy Cybernetic Modification
This could be one of their ways of escaping the Jovian Disease. While we know it as a psychological illness from the Jove poking and prodding where they shouldn't, the Drifters perhaps found a way around this by merging more with technology, and using that to monitor their status - any issues that could potentially cause them to fall into a degenerate state would be rapidly repaired by the symbiotic technological systems running in them - much like how we can scan for genetic anomolies today, but on a much more advanced scale.

it also opens up the realm of their weaknesses - are they more suseptible to EM interference when they are seperated from their ships? Whilst they might be hardened against it, a sufficently large charge would overcome their defences (and possibly fry the drifter, but whatever). We do need to pin one down and do some testing.

Nami Kumamato wrote:
2. Although heavily modified a special interest has been taken to keep the face "screw-free".
A lot of body langauge comes from the face - the Drifters might not be fully human anymore, but there would be some aspects of their humanity left - a simple relocation of an eyebrow for example can shift a phrase from a serious tone to a more light hearted or sarcastic one. Even if they have other methods of contacting each other (telepathy/direct neural interfacing), facial awareness would still be a primary means of making sure someone understands what you are trying to say.

Nami Kumamato wrote:
3. Dat gender difference!
I think they wouldn't have massively different roles; since they are well beyond us techonologically, gender could literally be a personal preference for them, for which they could change on a whim. However, if we are going by this, we would have to map the societal structue of the Drifters - are they a Patriarchical or Matriarchical Society? Do they have a single ruler or are they governed by a council? Do they have a civilian base or are they entirely militarised (much like the Borg)?

Without answers to these questions we can't immediately assume that one gender has a specific role that the other cannot fulfill just as easily.

"For it was said they had become like those peculiar demons, which dwell in matter but in whom no light may be found." - Father Grigori, Ravens 3:57

Nami Kumamato
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-02-11 11:52:53 UTC
Arline Kley wrote:
Nami Kumamato wrote:
1. Heavy Cybernetic Modification
This could be one of their ways of escaping the Jovian Disease. While we know it as a psychological illness from the Jove poking and prodding where they shouldn't, the Drifters perhaps found a way around this by merging more with technology, and using that to monitor their status - any issues that could potentially cause them to fall into a degenerate state would be rapidly repaired by the symbiotic technological systems running in them - much like how we can scan for genetic anomolies today, but on a much more advanced scale.


The Jovian Disease argument is still uncertain as it depends when exactly they have separated from the main Jove Empire.
It may be that they seceded (if this is the case) from the True Jove before the emergence of the Jovian Disease.
Until we know for certain when exactly the Drifters became stand-alone (again, if this is the case) we cannot say with a degree of certainty that they are or are not affected by the Jovian Disease.
It still remains a speculation.

Fornicate The Constabulary !

Nami Kumamato
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-02-11 12:00:26 UTC
Arline Kley wrote:
Nami Kumamato wrote:
3. Dat gender difference!
I think they wouldn't have massively different roles; since they are well beyond us techonologically, gender could literally be a personal preference for them, for which they could change on a whim. However, if we are going by this, we would have to map the societal structue of the Drifters - are they a Patriarchical or Matriarchical Society? Do they have a single ruler or are they governed by a council? Do they have a civilian base or are they entirely militarised (much like the Borg)?

Without answers to these questions we can't immediately assume that one gender has a specific role that the other cannot fulfill just as easily.


For the moment the question is not as to what extent the gender difference affects their society - as you have said we do not know enough on the subject. However they are the first faction to be presented in this way so this must be done for a reason.
If the reason is "because it looked cool" we might be in for disappointment.
Hope it is not.

Fornicate The Constabulary !

Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2015-02-11 12:30:11 UTC
Not to worry, "Apollo" and "Artemis" will become available when they permadie.
Nami Kumamato
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-02-11 12:42:22 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
Not to worry, "Apollo" and "Artemis" will become available when they permadie.


Hopefully :)

Fornicate The Constabulary !

Hra Neuvosto
Party Cat Enterprises
#7 - 2015-02-11 12:48:20 UTC
I'm a bit bored with greek names for things in scifi.
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
#8 - 2015-02-11 12:49:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Dun'Gal
Ok, so call me guilty for not being on the forums 24/7 but did I miss something here? Drifters? I heard there was a battleship or something (think it was called a Drifter) when did they become there own race?

Edit: Nvmd, Tiamat page was updated... I had lost hope in that ever happening pre-release
Nami Kumamato
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-02-11 12:56:24 UTC
Hra Neuvosto wrote:
I'm a bit bored with greek, latin, celtic, egyptian, arabic, summerian names for things in scifi.


FTFY

Fornicate The Constabulary !

Nami Kumamato
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2015-02-11 13:02:10 UTC
I hereby summon a Dev to this thread, to offer us a new cryptic yet insightful thing about the Drifters.

Bait: "EVE is dying" "Nestor" "CCP losing devs" "Ishtars are OP"

Fornicate The Constabulary !

Another Posting Alt
Zerious Fricken Biziness
#11 - 2015-02-11 13:23:51 UTC
Nami Kumamato wrote:
Bait: "EVE is dying" "Nestor" "CCP losing devs" "Ishtars are OP"


Wrong bait... eh'hem... chum.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#12 - 2015-02-11 14:51:58 UTC
Nami Kumamato wrote:
Personally I'm getting a weird "The Machine Crusade" vibe. Waiting on the Agamemnon Tyrannos :D


That is a huge coincidence. I'm re-reading The Machine Crusade right now.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#13 - 2015-02-11 15:25:39 UTC
Nami Kumamato wrote:
I hereby summon a Dev to this thread, to offer us a new cryptic yet insightful thing about the Drifters.

Bait: "EVE is dying" "Nestor" "CCP losing devs" "Ishtars are OP"


That just summons a tired CCL member.

Also, stop that.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department

Arline Kley
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#14 - 2015-02-11 15:46:03 UTC
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
That just summons a tired CCL member.

Also, stop that.
*makes Dorrim a mug of cocoa and gives him a comfy blanket and pillow *

But I do hope a Dev is currently rubbing his/her/its hands going "goood..... goooood"

"For it was said they had become like those peculiar demons, which dwell in matter but in whom no light may be found." - Father Grigori, Ravens 3:57

Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-02-11 19:04:11 UTC
With regards to the Cybernetics. Just because they have them doesn't prove how far removed they are from the main Jove race. It's been states that the Jove made extensive use of cybernetics and implants. Given most of our (very limited) interaction with the Jove was those sent to meet with us, makes sense they had less implants than say, their military forces. (Cause it could creep us out..).

As for so much work into making a Female form.. I think that's less an issue.. Most likely they did it now cause the quality of the game has gone up much more than when they were introducing the other pirate factions. Not that it looks like *THAT* much work to make. I mean lets face it, the hard work was done with the character creator. I mean there are lots of female NPC's already.. Hell they even have their own faction, The Sisters :p
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#16 - 2015-02-11 19:42:27 UTC
i don;t care, i just want to be able to play one or a jove with perma death, that would rule. I welcome our new Jove overlords.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Indahmawar Fazmarai
#17 - 2015-02-11 20:53:40 UTC
My 2 cents:

Drifters have yellow eyes as the Jove do (did).
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#18 - 2015-02-11 21:14:54 UTC
Drifters will be the Pandas of Eve Online.




Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#19 - 2015-02-11 22:22:34 UTC
Nami Kumamato wrote:

After all a toaster-faced humanoid conveys little emotion apart from "I wanna burn your toast".



Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?

Tiffany 'Tiffs' Succeed
Angel Content Cartel
#20 - 2015-02-12 03:47:42 UTC
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Nami Kumamato wrote:
I hereby summon a Dev to this thread, to offer us a new cryptic yet insightful thing about the Drifters.

Bait: "EVE is dying" "Nestor" "CCP losing devs" "Ishtars are OP"


That just summons a tired CCL member.

Also, stop that.

This made me laugh! :D


....



"sov is broken", "wardecs are broken", "gankers are griefers"


xD
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