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Industry tips for solo wormhole life?
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Newt BlackCompany
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2015-01-28 10:07:43 UTC
Abraham Vyacheslav wrote:
Thanks for the advice!

A few follow up questions on logging off, if you don't mind:

(1) Is the reason not to log off in the pos the risk of bubbles/destroyed POS before you return? That makes sense, I just want to make sure I understand the mechanic in play. I suppose logging off elsewhere also delays intel to anybody watching the POS for activity?

(2) If the system allows, would a deep safe (off d-scan from all celestials) be preferred, or one very close to the POS for quick warping in if necessary?

(3) Is there an exception for alts meant to man POS guns who can't fly, or else aren't flying, interdiction nullified vessels?

Thanks again for the tips!


Remember that wherever you log off outside of a station, when you log in, your ship automatically warps back to your log-off point. If your POS is under attack and surrounded by bubbles (usually the first thing people do when they attack a pos - if they are serious about taking it out), then your auto-warping ship will get stuck in a bubble, and probably pointed-scrammed-webbed-smashed, and then your pod will follow so you will wake up in hisec unable to do anything about your pos, and probably lacking a chain to find your way back. (You do have scanning alts with probes logged out in safe spots in that hole, right?)

I think you will be ok if you logged out in an interdictor or an interdiction nullified T3, but I've never tested it. Better not to risk it and just get into the habit of logging out in safe spots.

Deep-safes are great if you have them. I wish I could figure out a way to make one in my system. Currently, my safe is within dscan range of my pos, but outside scan range of other celestials. If I'm under attack, I'll hopefully at least see the bubbles before warping in.
Abraham Vyacheslav
Doomheim
#22 - 2015-01-28 17:51:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Abraham Vyacheslav
Newt BlackCompany wrote:


Remember that wherever you log off outside of a station, when you log in, your ship automatically warps back to your log-off point. If your POS is under attack and surrounded by bubbles (usually the first thing people do when they attack a pos - if they are serious about taking it out), then your auto-warping ship will get stuck in a bubble, and probably pointed-scrammed-webbed-smashed


Are you sure about that mechanic? My understanding is that you are immune to bubbles during the initial warp when you first log on (emergency warp, unlike a regular warp). This means you would wind up inside of your pos but, if the attackers were thorough, unable to warp out once you land (without trickery, like MJD/nullification/slowboating while they're not watching). I don't think there is any IMMEDIATE risk to your ship or pod as long as the POS shield is still there when you log on.

Can anybody confirm? This thread is old, but its discussion matches my understanding: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1524439

If that's right, then certain characters (pos gunners without nullified vessels) are probably best served logging off inside the POS? So that during a siege you can get to your stash of ships and the manual controls of the deathstar...

EDIT: Here is more detail and a more recent post on the technicalities: http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1cj1zo/logging_off_in_a_pos/c9h1sbh
Abraham Vyacheslav
Doomheim
#23 - 2015-01-29 02:05:07 UTC
Aha, I've found a dev post confirming my thoughts - from 2012, but still directly on point: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1838690#post1838690
Latin Lez
xLegion of the dammedx.
Moose Alliance
#24 - 2015-02-10 22:09:13 UTC
Without a doubt change your WH to one with good pi 6 alts will make you upto 6.25k of nanite paste per day which at todays price in jita is approximately 125-130m isk per day.
Now you won't be able to make paste everyday due to the hole being unsafe, holes etc. preferably a C4 hole is best purely due to amount of holes in lower class systems.
This still leaves enough pi to make pos fuel for a faction tower ,but you do need all 6 toons to have 6 planets , a cloaky transporter is perfect for moving the paste and any blue loot
Hope this is of use to you!
Newt BlackCompany
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2015-02-11 06:36:28 UTC
Abraham Vyacheslav wrote:

Are you sure about that mechanic? My understanding is that you are immune to bubbles during the initial warp when you first log on (emergency warp, unlike a regular warp). This means you would wind up inside of your pos but, if the attackers were thorough, unable to warp out once you land (without trickery, like MJD/nullification/slowboating while they're not watching). I don't think there is any IMMEDIATE risk to your ship or pod as long as the POS shield is still there when you log on.


Ahh, thanks. That's good to know. I'd just always assumed I'd get caught if I warped in and never bothered to test it.
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