Player Features and Ideas Discussion

***NEW IDEA***

Okay so this is so simple, and it came to me the other day while sitting in a FW plex. I was mashing D-scan, as one is required to do in order to PVP, and it came to me... the solution to removing Local:

1. Remove the player list for local chat. (definitely for nullsec, maybe for lowsec, leave empire local?) Chat channel still exists, just doesn't list all the players in system anymore. Local can be minimized and ignored by PVP-ers

2. Make D-scan automatically refresh at a set interval. Could be the exact same as the current fastest refresh time ("Scanner is recalibrating, please wait")
- We all know submarines and their sonar, the little spinning radar screen that "pings" out every X seconds.
- People who use D-scan pretty much constantly mash it. It might as well be a constant 'ping' scanner like a Submarine's sonar

Edit: Of course you should be able to pause it, and still do it manually. Possibly even set the interval yourself, update ever 5 seconds, 10 seconds, whatever you want, with a hard minimum ofc.

3. Find a good balance for D-scan new range.
- 360 degree range buffed to 30 AU? 28 AU? Leave it at 14 AU?
- Ability to increase range as scope (angle) is narrowed?

4. Make the D-scan filters EXACTLY the same as Overview. Currently, your overview can be set to NOT show allies/fleet members/corp members, etc.... but D-scan still will. Change this so that friendly* ships can be ignored on D-scan.

Result: D-scan becomes the new local. The window that all PVP players have open, as it constantly pings your surroundings for ships. Now isntead of Local, D-scan, AND Overview, we remove one of the spreadsheets from our UI, and only have D-scan and overview. Essentially... your ships Long Range Radar, and it's Short Range Radar.

Inb4 someone says my automatic D-scan idea is bad because it's too "easy" and mashing D-scan is what separates the good players from unaware lazy ones... yet thinks local is a good thing that should remain in game. Please check yourself before you completely contradict yourself.

Very simple, and all of you "if you don't like local, go to wormholes" people, please stop. Wormholes, like T3s, are a stupid gimmick, that never needed to be added to EVE, and just because they exist doesn't mean the rest of EVE should suffer a bad game mechanic like Local chat. Local IS stupid and fun reducing. This is fact, it is an EZ instant-too-much-intel tool that just ruins a lot of fights.

REMOVE LOCAL. So long overdue.

Is that sarcasm or for realz?

If you're being sarcastic and in fact hate this idea, please elaborate.

This man, right here, gets it.

Personally I'm intrigued by the removal of local - would make the pve I do in low more dangerous, and probably lead to more content/fights... Even if it is just that Cloaky proteus bridging five panthers onto my gila/procurer.

Certainly seems interesting, as my tiny portion of EvE gameplay is "log on, trash talk blues, log off after ten minutes"

(Now to be a troublemaker)
Seems Brave isn't all that brave when it comes to removing local :P

Yige Shen agrees with it this idea must be worse than i thought

Is it me or is this lacking in both an idea and a feature?

You know barring the whole "remove local and i cannot be ****** to go live in wormholes"

You seem to have missed the point. Many of you did. Did you guys read "remove local" and just forget everything else I said?

Does anyone have any input on the REASONS I suggested removing/changing all these info windows?

Too many spreadsheets, does this bother anyone else? Or is the entire EVE community opposed to even changing the UI? I can understand the hate when I call for a new game engine, but do you guys really want to keep Local+D-scan+Overview as your UI?

I completely disagree. I think removing local would most definitely lead to a more interesting game, not less.

Especially if the information you get from Local and D-scan was shown in 3D space, instead of in a spreadsheet window.****** This is the main point guys... removing local was just one of my suggestions to start fixing this (I think it's a problem/shortcoming of the game), but so far nobody is responding to this in particular. You're all talking about the removing local part, but not about the broader reason I suggested it.... TOO MANY WINDOWS, what can we do about it? (again, I haven't even heard if anyone agrees/disagrees with "too many windows").

I already use tabs in the overview to divide up different categories of items, but that's not the point. Even with tab for ship targets, a tab for drones, and an escape tab for planets and moons, you still need to have local and d-scan open. Any good EVE player's screen is taken up by 5, 6, 7... 15 windows of different data, almost all in lists, hence spreadsheets in space.

Does anyone else agree that this sucks?

That is how I play eve as well, and I don't even pvp. I would agree that the UI is lacking in the interface department.

We need to stop with the window ideas. Windows are last decade, yes they have their place, no they aren't the answer to every piece of information a pilot needs to see. Eve just doesn't feel like a "game" to me, take that for what it's worth, good or bad.

Lets all be honest, those 'awesome' asteroid fields updates they put in? How long did anyone care about how cool those were? 5 minutes at tops? Why? because all of those visuals are looked at, and then the pilot must move on from visuals to consuming visual data - even while mining. Oh hold on! Let me cycle up my rock scanner to pop up *another window* to see the tabular data of the asteroid field that my ship is is.

TL;DR: Sad but true, eve looks good but pilots can't enjoy the visuals and play, I mean work, the game. Windows are not an answer to the UI