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Why don't more women play Eve Online?

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Leannor
State War Academy
Caldari State
#361 - 2015-02-10 13:17:38 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
This is coming from a few pages back but I thought I should say it before I lose my train of thought:

There seems to be a few people not quite following each other's plots, the arguments seem to run along these lines,

"I am a woman and tend to stick to women only corporations and alliances because men are immature."
"We aren't immature! You are demanding that we change EVE!"
"Just telling you why you do not have many women on comms"
"Get out!"
"Oh my gosh! They don't want women in EVE!"
"No! We don't want women trying to change EVE!"
"Wait. Hang on! Women don't want to change EVE. They just want to find groups within EVE who are mature and won't keep trying to have comms sexy time with them."
"No! No! No! We must stomp this thread into the ground! If CCP see this they will have people reporting us for sexual harassment to the GMs everywhere for everything!"
"This game is already getting too much like Second Life with all the paint and clothes for sale!"
"Yeah! They want to break up my group of friends where I can be a raging thirteen year old while in my fifties!"
"No. You can keep your group of friends. Just saying, if you want women in your groups, you need to behave a certain way."

"Nevah! Not listening to you! Lalalalalalal"

.... and so it goes on and on.


Hilarious. ;)

"Lykouleon wrote:

STOP TOUCHING ICONIC SHIP PARTS"
Shin Jan
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#362 - 2015-02-10 13:18:54 UTC
Congrats Op, you succeeded in enticing a good part of the 4% real girls playing Eve Online, in one thread.

We can now resume our quest to find a girlfriend online, and go to phase 2.

Oh and don't forget : do not show them that you are interested, otherwise you will lose value.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#363 - 2015-02-10 13:20:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
EVE's 5-8% female population isn't that far out of the norm.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/130552/unmasking_the_avatar_the_.php?print=1
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#364 - 2015-02-10 13:23:58 UTC
Shin Jan wrote:
Congrats Op, you succeeded in enticing a good part of the 4% real girls playing Eve Online, in one thread.

We can now resume our quest to find a girlfriend online, and go to phase 2.

Oh and don't forget : do not show them that you are interested, otherwise you will lose value.

Also be alpha male

Help, I can't download EVE

President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub

PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Jenshae Chiroptera
#365 - 2015-02-10 13:24:33 UTC
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
Rain6637 wrote:
My ex-wife is still suuuper mad at me, even though she's the one who decided to run off and start seeing other people. I was away at the time, in the Army (at flight school, in fact, which the timing of it still confuses me). She's so mad, that every time we talked to take care of official matters (records, legal documents), every other word of hers was an insult or swear word. Not sure what inner dialogue she has going on, to convince herself she's the victim in all this, but I'm sure it's golden.

So. Personally, caring about the gender of people who play my favorite video game really doesn't make sense. I'd like to keep it gender neutral and interact with people within the bounds of the video game mechanics, regardless of gender.

Really. I'd prefer to not know.
Understandable. Personally, I don't care who knows...besides, once you get on coms, it all comes out anyways. Most people who have never been on coms with me either don't know or don't believe it and I don't care. My sex doesn't effect my ability one bit. As far as I'm concerned, we are all just fish in the same pond.
Done some acting in my time. I am pretty good at mimicry. I just have to practise some lines and I can sounds like a woman to many guys. (If I go off script and have to pronounce unpractised words or I get emotional in some way then I start to slip and drop words but I know there are better mimics than me.) I can even look like a woman. Shocked

Then there are voice synthesisers that work directly on modulating your sound driver.

You can also pretend to have a broken mic. The only critical thing about comms is listening to the FC.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#366 - 2015-02-10 13:33:48 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:

I think the length of discussion on this topic proves that there hasn't been anything of much interest passing through GD.

I like guys in EVE. People are extremely polite and on the average more intelligent than people you run into at the local Starbucks. I have two older brothers and I've been teased, hair pulled, sat on, some of my dates hit on, my toys broken, you name it for most of my childhood. And I love my brothers to death. A picture of a gaping orifice in fleet or "off" comments would be tame in comparison to things I'm used to. But my experience has been, over and again, that people in EVE are extremely nice and generous to a fault. Even negative experiences have turned out to evolve and change and mature.
Your parents might have been more strict and instilled proper respect into your brothers.

---
A Texan walks down the beach, kicks a coke bottle and out pops a genie.
Genie says, "Looks man. I failed at school, so I can't give you three wishes, only one big one."
"Weeeeell I awlwAAAaaays waAANNnttaad a hIGHway frooom hEERee tOOO HaWAAIiiiieee tOOO dIIVVee mAAA truck th're"
"If you are saying that you want a high way from Texas to Hawaii, that is a pretty tall order. Is there anything else you might prefer."
"Weeeeell I awlwAAAaaays waAANNnttaad ta unDEErstAAANnd thEEM womEEEns folk."
"Will that be two lanes or four?"

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#367 - 2015-02-10 13:34:18 UTC
Celise Katelo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#368 - 2015-02-10 13:44:53 UTC
19 pages Shocked

EVEBoard ...Just over 60million skill points, each skill was chosen for a reason. I closed my eyes & clicked another skill to train... "BINGO...!!!" ... "This time i got something usefull"
Raymond Moons
Parallactic Veil
#369 - 2015-02-10 13:52:28 UTC
Celise Katelo wrote:
19 pages Shocked



And still no contribution from CCP! When are they gonna send someone to tell us that everything will be okay? They could at least show us a graph of the current player demographics and tell us whether they are okay with that as it is.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#370 - 2015-02-10 14:00:58 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Sibyyl wrote:

I think the length of discussion on this topic proves that there hasn't been anything of much interest passing through GD.

I like guys in EVE. People are extremely polite and on the average more intelligent than people you run into at the local Starbucks. I have two older brothers and I've been teased, hair pulled, sat on, some of my dates hit on, my toys broken, you name it for most of my childhood. And I love my brothers to death. A picture of a gaping orifice in fleet or "off" comments would be tame in comparison to things I'm used to. But my experience has been, over and again, that people in EVE are extremely nice and generous to a fault. Even negative experiences have turned out to evolve and change and mature.
Your parents might have been more strict and instilled proper respect into your brothers.


I grew up in Watts. My brothers helped me survive it as a complete outsider. They named me, they changed my diapers and fed me. No one who wasn't us was allowed to touch a hair on my head, as far as they were concerned. Life is more complicated than a respect on/off switch. People who insist on that are ignorant of the world (which was Jenn's point).

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#371 - 2015-02-10 14:01:59 UTC
Women like sims and closer interaction with other players. To talk wih a player within as ship.... dont float the boat for women.

Get WiS implemented, where chars can meet instation, that will attract women.... put in a bar and give players the ability to get virtual drunk, women will come.

😬
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#372 - 2015-02-10 14:03:55 UTC
Thorn en Distel
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#373 - 2015-02-10 14:06:41 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
EVE's 5-8% female population isn't that far out of the norm.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/130552/unmasking_the_avatar_the_.php?print=1


Ya think? I predominantly play PVP MMORPG (in PVP guilds, on PVP servers), where there's generally fewer women than in the PVE ones. And the guilds I'm in and the other guilds we come in contact with are generally at least 15-20% female. If the EVE female population percentage is 5-8%, that is quite a bit outside the norm for even a PVP MMORPG.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#374 - 2015-02-10 14:09:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Sibyyl wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Sibyyl wrote:
I think the length of discussion on this topic proves that there hasn't been anything of much interest passing through GD.

I like guys in EVE. People are extremely polite and on the average more intelligent than people you run into at the local Starbucks. I have two older brothers and I've been teased, hair pulled, sat on, some of my dates hit on, my toys broken, you name it for most of my childhood. And I love my brothers to death. A picture of a gaping orifice in fleet or "off" comments would be tame in comparison to things I'm used to. But my experience has been, over and again, that people in EVE are extremely nice and generous to a fault. Even negative experiences have turned out to evolve and change and mature.
Your parents might have been more strict and instilled proper respect into your brothers.
I grew up in Watts. My brothers helped me survive it as a complete outsider. They named me, they changed my diapers and fed me. No one who wasn't us was allowed to touch a hair on my head, as far as they were concerned. Life is more complicated than a respect on/off switch. People who insist on that are ignorant of the world (which was Jenn's point).
I grew up in South Africa and Zimbabwe.
You try cycling through an industrial area, that borders a township in South Africa, back and forth every week day, while being caucasian and tell me again about survival.

I know a guy, his parents died of AIDS and left him a young brother who also had HIV. He was 13 and his brother an infant. He sold newspapers on the street, had no one to help him at all and from the papers taught himself English. Worked his way up and became a pharmacists.
His brother is one of the oldest living children born with HIV in that country.

He (the pharmacist) always has and still has proper respect for women. (Being an orphan or raising your sister is no excuse)

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#375 - 2015-02-10 14:14:52 UTC
Notice the typical pattern of the serial liar.

When confronted, escalate to an extreme degree, and hope that it's so extreme that no one will call bullshit on the story. Bonus points if the excalation improves the liar's claim to victimhood.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#376 - 2015-02-10 14:17:26 UTC

If pulling hair and being pinned down in and of themselves are disrespectful then I suppose I'm quite confused. I don't see what being infected has anything to do with that.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#377 - 2015-02-10 14:22:42 UTC
lol. Lies. You know perfectly well what you started (and I emphasized) when you said you grew up in Watts.

Help, I can't download EVE

President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub

PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Jenshae Chiroptera
#378 - 2015-02-10 14:29:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Sibyyl wrote:

If pulling hair and being pinned down in and of themselves are disrespectful then I suppose I'm quite confused. I don't see what being infected has anything to do with that.
Edited post to clarify.
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Notice the typical pattern of the serial liar.

When confronted, escalate to an extreme degree, and hope that it's so extreme that no one will call bullshit on the story. Bonus points if the excalation improves the liar's claim to victimhood.


Go ahead, do some research http://i.imgur.com/MwYFwyt.png last time I looked at it on street view it looked like a Sunday, all nice and quiet, nothing to concern anyone.

At the very least, I have some local knowledge which throws your claims of me being a liar into question.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#379 - 2015-02-10 14:35:25 UTC

Rain6637 wrote:
lol. Lies. You know perfectly well what you started (and I emphasized) when you said you grew up in Watts.

I've seen you mention your military past a few times. Any one of your tours comes with hazards I can't even imagine and would probably never survive. We mention these things not to brag but because it frames our mindset for other people without having to write down a ton of details.

In any comparison of my life to someone else's I'm perfectly content being the lesser of the two. I think you know that about me.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#380 - 2015-02-10 14:36:39 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
Sibyyl wrote:
I grew up in Watts.

Jesus


Finish the sentence.

Jesus...wouldn't go to Watts.